We put the Core i9-11900K and Core i5-11600K to the test in our gaming and application benchmarks.
Intel Core i9-11900K and i5-11600K Review : Read more
Intel Core i9-11900K and i5-11600K Review : Read more
Every model except the 11900k is still available at major retailers for MSRP. That is noteworthy and good for consumers. The 11600k looks pretty good for the mainstream at $270. The 5600x is unavailable as usual from major vendors, if you want to go though 3rd party vendors, it's $350 at Newegg. That's a significant win for Intel. The 11500 is $218. What does AMD have to compete with that? At the top, AMD still has the lead, but you can't buy them. From mid on down, where most people buy, Intel has taken the lead and you can actually buy them.Epic yawn. I really was hoping for more but expected pretty much what we got with 11th gen.
they are "available" because people aren't buying them nearly as much as AMD chips.Every model except the 11900k is still available at major retailers for MSRP. That is noteworthy and good for consumers. The 11600k looks pretty good for the mainstream at $270. The 5600x is unavailable as usual from major vendors, if you want to go though 3rd party vendors, it's $350 at Newegg. That's a significant win for Intel. The 11500 is $218. What does AMD have to compete with that? At the top, AMD still has the lead, but you can't buy them. From mid on down, where most people buy, Intel has taken the lead and you can actually buy them.
That's ok, you aren't the target market. For every i9-11900k that Intel sells through the retail channel, it likely sells thousands of lesser SKUs through OEMs and SIs and most of those lesser SKUs in OEM/SI systems don't need gilded motherboards and cooling. The i9-11900k is only for people who don't care much about anything besides having a flagship product.i don't care if it costs $50 less than the comparable amd chip. the top end mobo and cooling will more than eat up that cost savings.
I guess you said the same about the 8700K at launch, the 9900K at launch, the 9900KS, the 10900K at launch, etc while the 2700X or the 3600, 3900X were super available. I suppose there was far more demand for the Intel chips back then (retailing as a result for far higher prices than MSRP) than there was for the AMD cpus at or below MSRP. The truth is that there is always enough demand to keep the price high (or a product unavailable) if the quantity available for said product is very small. Availability doesn’t correlate with actual sales if we don't know the quanity produced. AMD's quote about a million chips is nothing. It doesn't specify to who they were sold or what skus they were. Plus 1 million is a small number to begin with. And we neither know what the yield rate for these 5000 series chips really is. The simple truth is that AMD as a fabless company was allocated a certain number of wafer starts in a shared factory in Twain and can only produce a small number of DIY cpu chips while they are also satisfying their other obligations (servers, consoles, OEMs, etc).they are "available" because people aren't buying them nearly as much as AMD chips.
and don't forget new mobo and massive cooler for pricing calculations.
That would certainly explain why Intel has been gaining back market share recently, because no one is buying their CPU's. The reason 5000 series CPU's are in such low supply is because AMD couldn't careless about enthusiasts. The money is in enterprise so that is where they are funneling most of their wafers. With no mining demand for CPU's, AMD shouldn't be struggling to meet demand if the desktop market was a priority to them.they are "available" because people aren't buying them nearly as much as AMD chips.
and don't forget new mobo and massive cooler for pricing calculations.
Every model except the 11900k is still available at major retailers for MSRP. That is noteworthy and good for consumers. The 11600k looks pretty good for the mainstream at $270. The 5600x is unavailable as usual from major vendors, if you want to go though 3rd party vendors, it's $350 at Newegg. That's a significant win for Intel. The 11500 is $218. What does AMD have to compete with that? At the top, AMD still has the lead, but you can't buy them. From mid on down, where most people buy, Intel has taken the lead and you can actually buy them.
The 11400F hasn't hit the US yet as far as stock. That cpu along with the 11700F paired with a B560 board will be the smart buys imo.The way I see it, 6 cores, 12 threads is the place to start for a good overall machine in 2021 (at least one that can game well). Without seeing actual benchies yet, I am wondering is what AMD's response will be to the 6 core, 12 thread i5-11400F. Couple that $160 CPU with a ~$135 motherboard and you have a excellent value base for a gaming machine. The Ryzen 5 3600 costs more and the 3300X is only 4c/8t... Intel's pricing on their lower-end i5 CPUs not only undercuts AMD's inflated current market prices, it also undercuts their MSRPs... Sadly it appears other folks have the same idea as the 11400F is out of stock at Newegg and is already above MSRP at Amazon.
I bet Alder Lake and Zen4 will be faster using low-latency DDR4 than similarly priced DDR5 until the 2nd-gen DDR5 platforms. That's more or less how it played out for all other transition platforms.Can't wait for DDR5 platforms from Intel and AMD / upgrade time.
11600k and under from Intel make decent sense as budget chips as long as you're smart about rest of the parts (ram, motherboard, overclocking/not oc, cooling). Everything above the i5 suffers from irrelevance due to competition from AMD or their own product stack.
"If the 11700k is a waste of sand, the 11900k is sand in your swimsuit."Perhaps Steve from Gamers Nexus put it best: "A waste of silicon."