Intel Experiences PC Growth, 3D XPoint Samples Shipping By The Thousands

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Get your cards ready for preorders of that 32GB optane drive. Once you install Windows 10 you'll have a whole 8GB left. Or use it as a mediocre cache drive like it's 2010.
 

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Paul Alcorn wrote: "[Intel] intends to produce both 3D NAND and 3D XPoint at its China-based Dalian fab, which signifies Intel's first solo memory production since 1985" and "3D XPoint [is being] jointly producing at the IMFT"

Regardless of whether the Dalian fab is creating 3D NAND, 3D XPoint, or both, the IMFT relationship must be like an open marriage, with all new products subject to the partners' whims, though I suspect most of the infidelity lies on Intel's side of the bed given its non-participation in 16nm NAND. After reading this article I wondered about the level of cooperation with 3D NAND, but the first link below shows that IMFT is still in play there. It doesn't add up; why would Intel manufacture the same thing in an Intel-only facility? Either Intel expects customers to beat its doors down with demand that cannot be handled via IMFT or it is planning a special version of either 3D NAND or 3D XPoint.

Micron and Intel Unveil New 3D NAND Flash Memory
https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/micron-and-intel-unveil-new-3d-nand-flash-memory/
 

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The IMFT relationship is an odd one, Intel and Micron hold hands on the manufacturing side but compete on the open market with the end products. Everything isn't rosy, many predict the relationship will end when when it comes up for renewal next year, and Intel's Dalian fab may add some heft to those rumors.
Intel skipped investment in Micron's 16nm NAND, which was an interesting development that led to lots of speculation. Here is a piece covering some of that,

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-micron-3d-nand-ssd,28839.html

and then here is more coverage on the topic of Intel's fab, and how that plays into the picture, as well.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-micron-3d-nand-xpoint,30378.html
 


Those are for cheapo netbooks,wait for the ddr4 slot options coming out next year.
Although having win10 on an optane and keep using your normal ssd is also an option.
 

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no way I don't believe it, put a nice chart of your sales Intel vs Population growth over the last 3-4years and lets see how much sales increase you have !
 

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I know a guy who works at the IMFT facility. He believes that 3D-XPoint will be one of the most significant changes to computing in the last decade. They are probably needing the additional manufacturing capacity. According to him though, they were ready to ship chips at the end of 2015, they've just been waiting for a new interface to take full advantage of the speeds.
 

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This doesn't say anything about the product launch being pushed back to 2018-2019, as reported by NCIX Tech Tips: https://youtu.be/FTflHDbZBXM?t=19s. Not sure what the real story is now.
 
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