News Intel Fab Expansion in China Allegedly Discouraged by White House

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When there is mistrust on both sides, things will not go well. The US has supposedly back-doored many things, from HP Laser printers to Cisco routers. China has supposedly back-doored Huawei kit. Given the political tensions, it is clear that the interests of the State outweigh the interest of business entities Adams be damned, the politics will re-make the marketplace.

Actually, in the long run this will be an advantage as we will end up with two aggressive entities, each trying to out-compete the other, for real. IFF the markets do ever converge, there will be a leveling of the playing field such as the world has never seen.
 

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Intel is battling to defend themselves against China's FinFET copyright scam, but they want to build a new fab there? Absolutely senseless. China is gutting our industries one IP theft at a time, I'm disgusted with their lack of ethics, but I'm even more disgusted with American industry's lack of spine.
 

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Given that the only source on this is an anonymous contact to a Bloomberg reporter, I'd take this reporting with a grain of salt. I would imagine Intel's decision to not move forward with expanding China production was theirs and theirs alone, and had nothing to do with any WH meeting.
 

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Between the power shortages in China, the real-estate debt crisis, China whipping up resentment against foreign corporations and making their life miserable in general, it would make more sense to look into bailing out of China like many other foreign companies are in the process of than invest more over there.
 

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Intel is battling to defend themselves against China's FinFET copyright scam, but they want to build a new fab there? Absolutely senseless. China is gutting our industries one IP theft at a time, I'm disgusted with their lack of ethics, but I'm even more disgusted with American industry's lack of spine.
As an asian, i am disgusted at American arrogant like they are the only one that can invent and the world owe them. Talk about ethics like how America can even phone tap their own allies or going to place where they do not belong to. Now i see made in america, i try to avoid as much as i could. Luckily here there is not much made in america stuff as America is not a manufacturing powerhouse like it use to and i glad it come to this
 

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As an asian, i am disgusted at American arrogant like they are the only one that can invent and the world owe them.
The majority of Chinese theft and industrial espionage in the semi industry isn't directed against America any more, but rather Taiwan. Remind me again what continent the nation of Taiwan is in? Oh yeah-- Asia.

The PRC employs hundreds of thousands of people whose job is, among others, to mount a sophisticated PR campaign: through carefully worded news stories, social media posts, and countless other sources, they've managed to convince many idealistic young Chinese that's what's good for the PRC is good for the Chinese people. This couldn't be further from the truth. You've been sold a bill of goods, sonny.

Here's the people you're defending

Chinese tennis star Peng Shuai disappears after accusing top PRC official of forcing her to have sex: London Times

Secret Documents Reveal How Chinese Internment Camps Work: AP News.
 
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As an asian, i am disgusted at American arrogant like they are the only one that can invent and the world owe them. Talk about ethics like how America can even phone tap their own allies or going to place where they do not belong to. Now i see made in america, i try to avoid as much as i could. Luckily here there is not much made in america stuff as America is not a manufacturing powerhouse like it use to and i glad it come to this
Don't group China in with the entire Asian continent. They are as likely to steal from Korea or Japan as they are from the US.

Here, you can give PRC's 'great firewall' a run for its money:

how-chinas-legal-system-enables-intellectual-property-theft/

chinese-caught-trying-to-steal-samsung-display-secrets-court-reveals/

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/2140671/japan-seeks-join-world-trade-organization-complaint-us-against-china

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/28/1-in-5-companies-say-china-stole-their-ip-within-the-last-year-cnbc.html

https://www.industryweek.com/the-economy/article/21118569/how-china-stole-an-entire-airplane

https://www.flightglobal.com/engines/chinese-spy-convicted-for-trying-to-steal-ge-aviation-composite-technology/146290.article

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/chinese-spy-convicted-for-plotting-to-steal-us-aerospace-secrets-101636160272508.html


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/264477055_A_Suicide_Survivor_The_Life_of_a_Chinese_Worker

https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/09/01/china-great-firewall-changing-generation
 
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China is gutting our industries one IP theft at a time, I'm disgusted with their lack of ethics, but I'm even more disgusted with American industry's lack of spine.
Biggest joke of last 2 century.
"Our industry"? American industry?
Which industry is it? Red indian industry? Comanche industry? Apache?
It is quite a funny thing when a global thief desperately try to save itself when fate comes back to it.
 
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Don't group China in with the entire Asian continent. They are as likely to steal from Korea or Japan as they are from the US.

Here, you can give PRC's 'great firewall' a run for its money:

how-chinas-legal-system-enables-intellectual-property-theft/

chinese-caught-trying-to-steal-samsung-display-secrets-court-reveals/

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/2140671/japan-seeks-join-world-trade-organization-complaint-us-against-china

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/28/1-in-5-companies-say-china-stole-their-ip-within-the-last-year-cnbc.html

https://www.industryweek.com/the-economy/article/21118569/how-china-stole-an-entire-airplane

https://www.flightglobal.com/engines/chinese-spy-convicted-for-trying-to-steal-ge-aviation-composite-technology/146290.article

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/chinese-spy-convicted-for-plotting-to-steal-us-aerospace-secrets-101636160272508.html


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/264477055_A_Suicide_Survivor_The_Life_of_a_Chinese_Worker

https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/09/01/china-great-firewall-changing-generation
Isn't this cute?
Diplomat, CNBC, hrw(!!),hindustantimes, it reminds of of something
Isnt it interesting the media are from countries that are former colonists which are now in desperate democratic dress up mode?
We all know what US is made of.
Shall we dig deeper?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/culture-shrink/202005/how-america-fell-toxic-individualism
As i told, US is not a country, it never was. It is a bankrupt entity with 360 million share holders.
HRW you say?
Anybody remember this? Little US, the little leader wannabe
https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/12/14/us-sanctions-international-criminal-court
Is there an ounce which is not stolen in US?
https://www.britannica.com/video/212505/Shrinking-Native-American-lands-in-the-United-States-indigenous-peoples
I guess not,but wait,it gets even better, because people of USA are concerned, very concerned about human rights, well, more about rights than human itself
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/11/nyt-military-covered-up-airstrike-syria-women-children.html
well, they were just self defending, in Syria.
wait a minute, they are not finished being concerned,
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/15/opinion/letters/afghanistan-drone.html
People of USA are so concerned about others, they always like to keep a tab
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/articles/us-keeps-getting-caught-spying-allies
Also, they also like to get paid for selling the security though
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/US-Plunders-Syria-by-Smuggling-Out-55-Vehicles-Laden-With-Oil-20210813-0015.html
While back in their rented home
https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/rapper-young-dolph-fatally-shot-tennessee-cookie-shop-81239817
So what people of US not of A has gobbled up a little bit of territory in Native america and swallowed guam, Hawaii , mexican land, people of US are good for world. Because they are biggest source of cheap entertainment.

I don't know which one is worse, the illegitimately bred entity that is desperately trying to conceal how it came into being?
Or it's shareholding people trying to conceal how incompetent they are, by playing democratic dress up & pretending to fix government every time. Do they really think their freedom of speech, chosen,voted government is gonna save them from what's coming.

I have always wanted to meet the people who have been standing up for me for other side of the world, i have never met them. It is time. We were not here 2 centuries ago. But we are here now. I am very excited to meet the leader wannabes.

I love US government, my problem is with their people.After all, you are a democracy, by people, of people for people --- On people.
 
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The majority of Chinese theft and industrial espionage in the semi industry isn't directed against America any more, but rather Taiwan. Remind me again what continent the nation of Taiwan is in? Oh yeah-- Asia.

The PRC employs hundreds of thousands of people whose job is, among others, to mount a sophisticated PR campaign: through carefully worded news stories, social media posts, and countless other sources, they've managed to convince many idealistic young Chinese that's what's good for the PRC is good for the Chinese people. This couldn't be further from the truth. You've been sold a bill of goods, sonny.

Here's the people you're defending

Chinese tennis star Peng Shuai disappears after accusing top PRC official of forcing her to have sex: London Times

Secret Documents Reveal How Chinese Internment Camps Work: AP News.
That is so cute.
"Secret documents reveals China...."
There are 3 universal truth.
All paranormal activities always take place in US
All UFOs, & Aliens always land in US
All kinds of secret documents about China are revealed in US .

Talking about truth, how is the grabbing thing coming out?
By the way about the Peng Shuai, all hail Almighty China.
They seem to have great godly power of disappearing then re -appearing people at will.
View: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1462223089119338498

Michael Hasting would be damned he wasn't Chinese
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-journalist-carcrash/journalist-who-brought-down-u-s-general-is-killed-in-los-angeles-car-crash-idINBRE95I04520130619
 

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