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They way I see it, you both agree. One writes that "Haswell refresh will be Q2 2014 and will be just a slight clock speed boost and renaming from early reports. So the i7 4770k becomes the i7 4790k clocked maybe 200Mhz faster stock."

The other writes that "
Depends on what you call a "refresh". Intel has released slightly higher-clocked versions of their already-existing processor lines before without making much fuss out of it (like the i7-4771). Now they call it a "refresh" to get some public attention and higher sales" and "At this point we don’t know much about the actual specs of Haswell refresh parts, although some industry sources have told us they expect nothing but rebrands. Higher clocks are a...
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Well, I heard the refresh will only come for laptop CPUs. Intel is gonna skip this for desktop and will release no new desktop CPUs in 2014. In 2015, Broadwell will be released for laptop before its desktop variant comes. Intel has announced that mobile devices are the future, so from now on, the mobile variants will be released first.
 
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so no haswell refresh for desktop well than i will what for brodwell did they said when they gonna realase brodwell
 
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Incorrect. Haswell refresh will be Q2 2014 and will be just a slight clock speed boost and renaming from early reports. So the i7 4770k becomes the i7 4790k clocked maybe 200Mhz faster stock.

Broadwell and 14nm will be late 2014 for mobile parts only at first most likely.

So around May for the new Haswell refresh parts.
 
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really that is great but im still waiting for haswell
 
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Depends on what you call a "refresh". Intel has released slightly higher-clocked versions of their already-existing processor lines before without making much fuss out of it (like the i7-4771). Now they call it a "refresh" to get some public attention and higher sales. But these CPUs will most likely be ordinary Haswells from ordinary Haswell production lines, only that Haswell yields have grown mature enough to allow for slightly higher clock speeds.

Everything else is still rumor level, such as Intel allegedly changing Haswell refresh voltages so that the refresh will not work with existing Haswell chipsets. I am not seeing this happening. The fact alone that a quarter before the "release" practically nothing is known about the details of the alleged "refresh" is an indication that there is not much to know. Google for "Haswell refresh changes", and all you find are a few rumor pages from summer to autumn 2013.
 
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Okay, technically you are right. But so am I. If you read through the links you gave, you hardly find any substantial information about the new chips. Well, Fudzilla gets a little more concrete:

" At this point we don’t know much about the actual specs of Haswell refresh parts, although some industry sources have told us they expect nothing but rebrands. Higher clocks are a possibility, but that’s about it."

That sums it up nicely, doesn't it? As I said, a quarter to announced release nothing substantial is known, and what is known indicates that these will just be regular Haswells at slightly different clock speeds, or, even worse, rebrands (i.e. the same, already existing, Haswell being sold under a new name, giving the impression that it would something new when it is not. AMD has done that before with some of their Radeon cards).
 
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Guys (or guy and gal)

They way I see it, you both agree. One writes that "Haswell refresh will be Q2 2014 and will be just a slight clock speed boost and renaming from early reports. So the i7 4770k becomes the i7 4790k clocked maybe 200Mhz faster stock."

The other writes that "
Depends on what you call a "refresh". Intel has released slightly higher-clocked versions of their already-existing processor lines before without making much fuss out of it (like the i7-4771). Now they call it a "refresh" to get some public attention and higher sales" and "At this point we don’t know much about the actual specs of Haswell refresh parts, although some industry sources have told us they expect nothing but rebrands. Higher clocks are a possibility, but that’s about it."

Sounds like agreement to me. Same old same old running at a slightly higher multiplier (or base, but that seems less likely) as the silicon matures and yields improve.
 
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