News Intel Inadvertently Narrows Down Arc A770, A750 GPU Pricing

[Admin]

Intel has changed the prize pool in its GPU-focused scavenger hunt to include an alternative Core i5-12600K or Core i7-12700K prize for the original Arc A750 and A770 prizes.

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[InvalidError]

Unless drivers improve drastically in short order, pricing based on "third-tier gaming performance" is going to mean much lower prices than planned during the hunt.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

So more delays now ? This indeed seems like a last moment strategy, and/or a marketing decision to swap the hardware to a processor instead. With this move now I'm more skeptical about INTEL delivering a decent gaming GPU on time, since the next-gen behemoth GPUs are on the horizon for a release later this year, both by AMD an d NVIDIA.

Unless they sort out the GPU driver issues, things don't seem too bright for Intel. So much wait/ado for a THIRD discrete gaming GPU competitor ? !

 

[cyrusfox]

I'm more skeptical about INTEL delivering a decent gaming GPU on time

Aren't they already late... how could you be skeptical when they have already proven they can't release on time...

 

[Co BIY]

I think this doesn't bode well for a 2022 release.

But... If release was even a day later than was promised by the giveaway they would have to do the same thing for the contest winners. So there is a chance it is not a big deal.

As far as prices go I don't think this gives any useful info. If they substituted an option for a 12900KS it might be because they want dedicated fans happy not because they value the GPU at $700.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Aren't they already late... how could you be skeptical when they have already proven they can't release on time...

Yes, they are indeed late, but I'm skeptical because previously we have been expecting a late Q3 2022 release window, but after this prize announcement, I doubt the release date could be any closer.

It might slip in Q1 2023 Windows, unless Intel acts quickly. But let us think.....Why are they offering an alternative option to get a CPU instead of a GPU ? If they are indeed confident about their release date Window on ARC alchemist, then I'm not sure why this sudden prize pool decision was taken by the marketing department ?

I could be wrong on some points though.

 

[Lorien Silmaril]

Grab the CPU prize instead guys, say least you won't have to work about broken drivers.

 

[mdd1963]

"...But Q4 has already started this year, "

And all this time I thought Q4 started 1 Oct...!

 

[jp7189]

I know drivers are the official excuse for the delay, but I think if that were the only problem they would have released knowing they can improve after launch. I think the real reason is a show stopping problem in silicon that is requiring yet another revision. That sounds more reasonable especially given the rumors of an major AIB stopping production.

 

[InvalidError]

I know drivers are the official excuse for the delay, but I think if that were the only problem they would have released knowing they can improve after launch.

Intel said they were going to price Alchemist based on "third-tier games performance" and with performance currently being all over the place, Intel would almost have to give away the GPUs. It is unsellable in its current state.

Hardware shortcomings giving drivers developers nightmares is certainly a possibility. Intel has had lots of experience with that with its Puma modem chipsets.

 

[steve15180]

It's worse than that, they have been testing with only base drivers with no extra "features". Gamer's Nexus has an entire video devoted to how screwed up Arc Control is screwed up. Bottom line is that IF you can get Arc Control installed (a big IF), it's completely broken, doesn't run, features inop, artifacts, etc. It's beyond a disaster at this point

 

[Fleshharrower]

Intel has been talking about getting into the discrete video card market since at least 2012. I know that as a fact since I met one of their production managers back then. He's a guy I used to work with at another company. He was very excited about the Intel cards and said that they were going to dominate the market.

Here we are over 10 years later... No viable video card to compete with Nvidia and AMD at any price point. No excitement from the enthusiasts. Time to pack it up and move on Intel. Seriously, how much time do you need?

 

[InvalidError]

Here we are over 10 years later... No viable video card to compete with Nvidia and AMD at any price point. No excitement from the enthusiasts. Time to pack it up and move on Intel. Seriously, how much time do you need?

With IGPs likely to dominate the low-to-mid range in the near future, Intel backing out of graphics would mean losing most of its client computing income altogether over the next 5-7 years. AMD deciding to slap at least a basic IGP in all 7000-series SKUs and beyond is not an accident, it is a prerequisite for breaking into the ~70% of the market that doesn't want a dGPU.

Intel needs to significantly up its graphics game regardless of whether it pushes forward with discrete graphics or not.

 

[sherhi]

Why would anyone buy this priced around 300-400? It makes no sense, especially with next gen GPUs incoming. Maybe they can push it into those bad prebuilt PCs. If any new product wants to make a breakthrough into the market it has to deliver comparable performance to established brands for significantly lower cost - I dont see that at this moment.

 

[cryoburner]

Why would anyone buy this priced around 300-400? It makes no sense, especially with next gen GPUs incoming. Maybe they can push it into those bad prebuilt PCs. If any new product wants to make a breakthrough into the market it has to deliver comparable performance to established brands for significantly lower cost - I dont see that at this moment.

Any new GPUs from Nvidia or AMD in this price range probably won't be coming until early next year. And considering you still can't even find a 3050, 3060 or 3060 Ti at MSRP, if these cards can offer more performance in most games at a lower price, they could be viable options.

And at least according to Intel, they will be pricing the cards based on how they perform in DX9/11 titles, while the cards are shown to be more capable in DX12/Vulcan, where driver performance isn't holding them back. So, it's possible that performance could end up more like cards positioned a tier higher down the line, as more future games are released with the newer APIs, and as driver performance improves. I suspect the pricing will be competitive, as Intel tends to price their products competitively when entering new markets, and they will likely be willing to forgo profits for this first generation of hardware in favor of the hardware being positively received.

I'm interested in seeing how they perform and exactly what their pricing will be like, along with how their feature-set will compare at launch. It's probably best to wait and see what the actual hardware is like before dismissing them based on little more than pre-release drivers running on an entry-level card that's not even being sold in this market yet.

 

[CarlosO]

All I want to know is, what kind of hashrate it has...