News Intel Launches 16 New Raptor Lake CPUs: Higher Pricing and Power Consumption

[Admin]

Intel released 16 new Raptor Lake CPUs with more performance in tandem with higher gen-on-gen power consumption and pricing.

Intel Launches 16 New Raptor Lake CPUs: Higher Pricing and Power Consumption : Read more

 

[DRagor]

13500 costing just 10 bucks more then 13400 but having 4 extra e-cores plus higher clocks and more cache looks really yummy. Can't wait to see reviews.

 

[cyrusfox]

This is the first time I have realized the 12600 had no e-cores while the 12600k does. The low end got quite a bump with all the added efficiency cores, only i3 missing out now.

More cache, higher base+turbo, and in most instances more # e-cores. Tough competing with last gen prices (Ryzen 5500 $90 at microcenter and other places going for $100), good to see these chips already available at newegg (13500 already OOS).

 

[-Fran-]

Thanks for the information, Paul!

There's a small typo in the specs table:

Core i5-13500

$232

14 / 20 (6+8)

2.5 / 4.8

1.8 / 3.5

55.5MB (11.5+24)

65W /148W

DDR4-3200 / DDR5-4800

I wish that i5 had that much cache! Can you imagine? xD

Regards.

 

[Why_Me]

The only downside is the locked i5's natively support DDR5 4800mhz when the i7's natively support DDR5 5600mhz.

 

[truerock]

I've become more interested in the Intel Xeon CPUs that Intel will roll out in 2023.

I continue to think that E-cores are a dumb idea for desktop PCs.
Apparently, Intel thinks E-cores are a dumb idea for HEDT PCs.

I think the Intel Raptor desktop CPUs are a riff on the Intel Raptor notebook CPUs - as a way to capture additional income from the Intel notebook CPUs - even if it is weird to have E-cores in a desktop PC.

 

[thestryker]

Based on the Intel tables none of these parts other than the 13900/13700 are Raptor Cove cores which I find disappointing despite expecting it. I was holding out hope that the 13600/13500 might be Raptor Cove due to sharing P/E configuration with the 13600K. While there were all sorts of optimizations the memory controller is the biggest where Raptor Cove is a huge improvement over Golden Cove.

 

[cyrusfox]

Based on the Intel tables none of these parts other than the 13900/13700 are Raptor Cove cores

Hmm, it seems you are right, I thought everything was going to get a cache increase... but looking at identical core configs, I am not seeing that, 12600k and 13400 identical core count and cache...
Would be interested in an article breaking this down. I'm looking at the top end but always curious how the whole stack of offerings looks(on a 12900k & 12600k eager to replace)

 

[thestryker]

I continue to think that E-cores are a dumb idea for desktop PCs.
Apparently, Intel thinks E-cores are a dumb idea for HEDT PCs.

Intel can't afford to have any scheduler issues, AVX 512 is more important, and power consumption/maximum clocks are less important to this market. These are the reasons you won't see hybrid CPUs in this area, but Intel is bringing all E-core high core count CPUs in the next two years.

I think the Intel Raptor desktop CPUs are a riff on the Intel Raptor notebook CPUs - as a way to capture additional income from the Intel notebook CPUs - even if it is weird to have E-cores in a desktop PC.

No E-cores are twofold: keep parity with AMD without completely jacking up power consumption and it's also likely cheaper to manufacture than 16 P-cores would be. The only potential overlap between the two markets is the HX CPUs and these seem to come down to binning desktop parts rather than the other way around (at least they did with ADL).

Hmm, it seems you are right, I thought everything was going to get a cache increase... but looking at identical core configs, I am not seeing that, 12600k and 13400 identical core count and cache...
Would be interested in an article breaking this down. I'm looking at the top end but always curious how the whole stack of offerings looks(on a 12900k & 12600k eager to replace)

The easiest way to tell is the L2 cache because Raptor Cove is 2MB P-core and Golden Cove is 1.25MB, both share 2MB/4 E-core design.

 

[AgentBirdnest]

Apologies if I missed it, but when will these be available?

I was already interested in the 13400, but now I'm even more curious about the 13500. Can't wait for reviews of those! I'll likely put one in a new build.

 

[Why_Me]

Apologies if I missed it, but when will these be available?

I was already interested in the 13400, but now I'm even more curious about the 13500. Can't wait for reviews of those! I'll likely put one in a new build.

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-13400f-core-i5-13th-gen/p/N82E16819118431
Intel Core i5-13400F $209.99

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-13400-core-i5-13th-gen/p/N82E16819118430
Intel Core i5-13400 $239.99

 

[Ar558]

AMD are gonna really have to pull there finger out to compete with the 13400/500, those look like the kings of the value segment from now on.

 

[bit_user]

I continue to think that E-cores are a dumb idea for desktop PCs.
Apparently, Intel thinks E-cores are a dumb idea for HEDT PCs.

Not necessarily. The reason their Xeon CPUs lack E-cores is probably because the E-cores don't have features like AVX-512 or AMX, that users of workstations & servers are more likely to want.

 

[kookykrazee]

Do we REALLY need 16 new CPUs? I mean give a variety and price ranges for people, but simplify the structure.

 

[Co BIY]

Do we REALLY need 16 new CPUs? I mean give a variety and price ranges for people, but simplify the structure.

Large volumes mean that market segmentation can be very fine and maximum profit can be found.

IF I was good with graphics I would show picture of how a series of rectangles (products) match the area under a curve (the market). The more boxes (products/SKUs) the closer I can match the curve at every point and maximize profit. (And reduce wasteful consumer surplus - bargains, giving something for nothing)

I do wonder what is the first factor in the excessive number of SKUs. Market segmentation or variable yields inherent in the production process and the resulting binning?