really puts the sting on amd. people were wondering if bulldozer could hold up to sandy bridge, but unless they plan on something huge, it doesn't seem like they will be able to keep up with intel. i guess that means amd fans could maybe look forward to inexpensive pricing.
[citation][nom]WHComp[/nom]Goodbye AMD, you will be missed.[/citation]
[citation][nom]Saffron_Blaze[/nom]Kiss AMD goodbye?[/citation]
Haven't you heard? By the time Ivy Bridge rolls out, AMD will put transistors in four dimensions.
[citation][nom]yyk71200[/nom]Haven't you heard? By the time Ivy Bridge rolls out, AMD will put transistors in four dimensions.[/citation]
So basically they will control time and space so that a Sempron could outperform any computer, even a supercomputer? Dang, I didn't think amdfangirl would've been right on that, but maybe it's true...
Grrr I hate posting something only for me to not be logged in and for Toms to lose the post.
Anyway, a 37% increase in transistor performance doesn't necessarily translate to a 37% increase in CPU performance compared to Sandy Bridge. What it should mean is higher clocks and lower power usage, so you can have your cake and eat it too. And I now have a craving for waffles, yum.
I was wondering about stacked memory, and Ivy Bridge should feature that too (if Semi-Accurate is to be believed). Should the memory bus be wide enough, an onboard GPU could be very fast. I'm wondering about AMD's plans with both sorts of technology. It would be naive to think that AMD didn't know about Intel using either of these, but you can't help but wonder how they're going to combat it. The only way Intel could've been more cruel would be to delay this announcement to just prior to the Bulldozer and Llano launches, but it's done now.
as impressive as this sounds, it just sounds like Intel found a good way to get to 22nm and below, reading the title i thought Intel found a way for a single transistor to act as 3 transistors, but really this only allows for smaller more efficient or faster chips (hard to say for sure the explanation was really kindergarten and really gave no real details), makes it sound like Ivy Bridge is just Sandy Bridge OCed
and for those who think it's a nail in AMD's coffin think again, AMD has nearly always clocked slower then Intel, they make up for it with optimization, which gives the bonus that when they do figure die shrink out they get even more bang
Intel is going so fast, that the latest thing only lasts 3 months now, what a joke. Your going to need 3 different motherboard sockets a year at this rate.
Another reason why AMD could care less about the high end desktop market, it's very small and they are moving in other directions.
AMD getting mounted by Intel is nothing new, but we should keep it in perspective. Bulldozer is inferior in pure performance, but should do well in performance per die size in highly threaded applications. It's better than where they are now. Also, don't underestimate IBM and their own research. They alone make faster microprocessors than Intel. AMD will have access to this technology.
So, while there's no doubt this is an important announcement, it's not the end of the world for AMD. We don't know how easy this will be to make, we don't know what IBM has up its sleave, and we already are in a situation where AMD can't compete in performance, but still is surviving.