News Intel makes a big AI push with future CPUs — Panther Lake in 2025 will double the AI performance over Arrow Lake and Lunar Lake

[Admin]

In Intel's Q4 earnings call, Pat Gelsinger said Panther Lake will end up being six times as fast as Meteor Lake in AI workloads.

Intel makes a big AI push with future CPUs — Panther Lake in 2025 will double the AI performance over Arrow Lake and Lunar Lake : Read more

 

[jasonf2]

Well the good news is that there might be a chip by late 2025 that will be able to run the minimum hardware specs for Windows 12 OS AI mode.

 

[endocine]

Intel: "at some point in the future our products may be competitive, with something, at least that's what we are claiming even though we can't deliver anything on time"

 

[gg83]

Do we think Intel was able to dump enough r&d to be able to surpass tsmc? They have been slacking for a while now. I hope it was on purpose.

 

[wr3zzz]

Articles like this really need to be better edited. While 5X gain sounds impressive the real world impact won't matter much if it's something like gaming GPU going from 2fps to 10fps while in 720P.

So what would the 5X "AI" performance gain do for me?

 

[bit_user]

"We are first in the industry to have incorporated both gate-all-around and backside power delivery in a single process node, the latter unexpected two years ahead of our competition.

I think this is a transcription error. It'd make much more sense if he said "... the latter an expected two years ...".

 

[bit_user]

Articles like this really need to be better edited. While 5X gain sounds impressive the real world impact won't matter much if it's something like gaming GPU going from 2fps to 10fps while in 720P.

The GPU analogy is a good one.

Consider that Meteor Lake's NPU isn't even as fast or capable as its 128 EU iGPU:

Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...meteor-lake-architecture-launches-december-14
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While it would be impressive to boost it 5x, that's probably not even going to equal the performance of an Arc A770 that's not even using its XMX units. Still, good for an integrated IP block, but not stellar.

Also, don't plan on using it for training. I expect it'll be heavily biased towards inference.

 

[bluvg]

If it's 3x to Arrow/Lunar Lake, then Panther Lake is additional 2x, wouldn't that be 6x Meteor Lake? The other way of reading it--(3xMTL) plus (2xMTL)--is kind of tortured wording, or maybe he just spoke inaccurately. "An additional 200%" seems clearer if he meant 5x MTL.

 

[bit_user]

If it's 3x to Arrow/Lunar Lake, then Panther Lake is additional 2x, wouldn't that be 6x Meteor Lake? The other way of reading it--(3xMTL) plus (2xMTL)--is kind of tortured wording, or maybe he just spoke inaccurately. "An additional 200%" seems clearer if he meant 5x MTL.

My guess was that they were rounding up, in each case, but the final speedup rounds to 5x. For instance, if the speedup in Arrow/Lunar lake is 2.8x, and then you get a 1.8x speedup to Panther Lake, that would result in a final speedup of 5.04x, which rounds down to 5x.

Still, it is a little weird of him to say it like that. Especially for a former engineer. Maybe he had been saying "nearly 3x" and "nearly 2x", but at some point the "nearly" got dropped?

 

[yeyibi]

Small letter: It will support 5 extra GPU slots for nvidia cards*.

*5 nvidia cards will be able to run ChatGPT8, but we will charge a subscription by pretending that it needs the cloud to run.