intel or zen or ps4k..?

[ayushrustagi]

Which i should buy intel i5 or zen or ps4k..?

 

[klofijool]

zen

 

[ayushrustagi]

Reason for that?

 

[LeKeiser]

Zen is not out yet, no one knows how it's going to perform for sure.
If you only plan on gaming, PS4
If you plan to do other stuffs, iX.

 

[klofijool]

probably will outrun every i5, dont know too much about the i5's but i guess it only supports ddr3 (quick google) while zen will support 4. newer architecture from the company that tries its best to support their costumers after buying one of their amazing price/performance products. no pricings have been released but if AMD is smart it will be cheaper than a new i5 while whooping its butt. octacore with hyperthreading for the price of an i5? me like ^^ and 8channel ddr4, i guess i should buy 4 sticks of about 2 gb ddr4 then : / ...

 

[Hawkshot]

This completely depends on what you want to be doing, Zen could be ok but no one knows for sure yet so honestly I wouldn't wait for it as the Intel I5 Skylake chips are actually preforming fantastically at the moment.

 

[Hawkshot]

probably will outrun every i5, dont know too much about the i5's but i guess it only supports ddr3 (quick google) while zen will support 4. newer architecture from the company that tries its best to support their costumers after buying one of their amazing price/performance products. no pricings have been released but if AMD is smart it will be cheaper than a new i5 while whooping its butt. octacore with hyperthreading for the price of an i5? me like ^^ and 8channel ddr4, i guess i should buy 4 sticks of about 2 gb ddr4 then : / ...

the Intel Skylake chips are DDR4 compatible and they have a good i5 range, also having a massive number of cores doesn't always mean a better CPU and the Intel i3-6100 which is dual core hyper threaded out preforms the AMD Fx-6300 in pretty much every way even when the FX gets to use all of its cores

 

[ayushrustagi]

Ps4k is also not out yet...I will mainly play games with ultra setting...latest and upcoming...On that basis i want the answer..?

 

[Hawkshot]

Ps4k is also not out yet...I will mainly play games with ultra setting...latest and upcoming...On that basis i want the answer..?

then to be safe ide get an Intel i5-6600k as I know from experience there isn't a game I cant play on ultra paired with my GTX 1070.

 

[klofijool]

probably will outrun every i5, dont know too much about the i5's but i guess it only supports ddr3 (quick google) while zen will support 4. newer architecture from the company that tries its best to support their costumers after buying one of their amazing price/performance products. no pricings have been released but if AMD is smart it will be cheaper than a new i5 while whooping its butt. octacore with hyperthreading for the price of an i5? me like ^^ and 8channel ddr4, i guess i should buy 4 sticks of about 2 gb ddr4 then : / ...

the Intel Skylake chips are DDR4 compatible and they have a good i5 range, also having a massive number of cores doesn't always mean a better CPU and the Intel i3-6100 which is dual core hyper threaded out preforms the AMD Fx-6300 in pretty much every way even when the FX gets to use all of its cores

ah ok, thanks for the correction. thing is, if AMD manages to whoop intel's butt i dont think they ll be able to outperform and/or outprice AMD in the comming years. upgrading is a matter of what you have/need too. im going to pick up my fx-8370 in a moment and im seriously considering cfx on my r9 280x. and that comparison isnt really fair as the sixcore CPU is pretty much obsolete by now and was never meant for gaming anyway. at the fx series you ll have to deal with CMT, 4 threads on 8 cores, oposite of intel. you could say that im coing to pick up my quadcore that has 4 bonus cores. those bonus cores make it really smooth to alt+tab in/out of applications, run a few websites in the background and well, a rocksteady overall feeling. now imagine me, gaming with an actual 8core with bonus threads instead of bonus cores ^^ and dont give me that BS about core utelisation, software is slowly catching up to the hardware as we speak.

since i ve got an 8370, i can wait till hopefully the 2ng gen Zen. i cant wait for the vega and im not too impressed by the rx 480 (mostly the release wasnt spectacular, some even called it a major flaw). im not willing to spend 300 euros at this moment, but a used r9 280x would be just fine for a nice CFX setup, as my new mobo has 2 pcie x16 slots (and from what i ve read, it has actual x16 on the 2nd slot^^). therefore, i might be able to just sit back and game on and go back to reading and calculating maybe even AFTER the vega release (as in: the ones after that one). so how/why/when to upgrade? depending on OP's current platform OP should upgrade yesterday to an i5 or wait for the Zen

 

[Hawkshot]

probably will outrun every i5, dont know too much about the i5's but i guess it only supports ddr3 (quick google) while zen will support 4. newer architecture from the company that tries its best to support their costumers after buying one of their amazing price/performance products. no pricings have been released but if AMD is smart it will be cheaper than a new i5 while whooping its butt. octacore with hyperthreading for the price of an i5? me like ^^ and 8channel ddr4, i guess i should buy 4 sticks of about 2 gb ddr4 then : / ...

the Intel Skylake chips are DDR4 compatible and they have a good i5 range, also having a massive number of cores doesn't always mean a better CPU and the Intel i3-6100 which is dual core hyper threaded out preforms the AMD Fx-6300 in pretty much every way even when the FX gets to use all of its cores

ah ok, thanks for the correction. thing is, if AMD manages to whoop intel's butt i dont think they ll be able to outperform and/or outprice AMD in the comming years. upgrading is a matter of what you have/need too. im going to pick up my fx-8370 in a moment and im seriously considering cfx on my r9 280x. and that comparison isnt really fair as the sixcore CPU is pretty much obsolete by now and was never meant for gaming anyway. at the fx series you ll have to deal with CMT, 4 threads on 8 cores, oposite of intel. you could say that im coing to pick up my quadcore that has 4 bonus cores. those bonus cores make it really smooth to alt+tab in/out of applications, run a few websites in the background and well, a rocksteady overall feeling. now imagine me, gaming with an actual 8core with bonus threads instead of bonus cores ^^ and dont give me that BS about core utelisation, software is slowly catching up to the hardware as we speak.

since i ve got an 8370, i can wait till hopefully the 2ng gen Zen. i cant wait for the vega and im not too impressed by the rx 480 (mostly the release wasnt spectacular, some even called it a major flaw). im not willing to spend 300 euros at this moment, but a used r9 280x would be just fine for a nice CFX setup, as my new mobo has 2 pcie x16 slots (and from what i ve read, it has actual x16 on the 2nd slot^^). therefore, i might be able to just sit back and game on and go back to reading and calculating maybe even AFTER the vega release (as in: the ones after that one). so how/why/when to upgrade? depending on OP's current platform OP should upgrade yesterday to an i5 or wait for the Zen

The Main problem with AMD chips lie in the fact that their single core processing power isn't very good, most of the highest population games such a Lol, Dota2, WOW, CS:GO and overwatch all rely on single core processing power to get the best FPS due to this some even high end AMD Chips struggle to get the same fps levels as their Intel counter parts do. I previously had a FX-8350 and it was fine there wasn't really anything wrong with it but it wasn't quite cutting the fps I wanted so I moved onto a I5-6600k my fps increase was insance, on league I was getting around 80fps with the FX-8350 but with the I5-6600k I can get upto 400fps. Unless Zen really changes things which in fairness they are trying to do there will be no reason to get AMD Zen chips over the Skylake chips.

 

[bicycle_repair_man]

Ps4k is also not out yet...I will mainly play games with ultra setting...latest and upcoming...On that basis i want the answer..?

How are we supposed to do that when Zen and the PS4K (or whatever it's going to be called) haven't been released yet? An i5 is good now but it could be insufficient by the time they arrive.

We can't answer a question when the information at our disposal is based on hearsay and marketing material.

 

[klofijool]

probably will outrun every i5, dont know too much about the i5's but i guess it only supports ddr3 (quick google) while zen will support 4. newer architecture from the company that tries its best to support their costumers after buying one of their amazing price/performance products. no pricings have been released but if AMD is smart it will be cheaper than a new i5 while whooping its butt. octacore with hyperthreading for the price of an i5? me like ^^ and 8channel ddr4, i guess i should buy 4 sticks of about 2 gb ddr4 then : / ...

the Intel Skylake chips are DDR4 compatible and they have a good i5 range, also having a massive number of cores doesn't always mean a better CPU and the Intel i3-6100 which is dual core hyper threaded out preforms the AMD Fx-6300 in pretty much every way even when the FX gets to use all of its cores

ah ok, thanks for the correction. thing is, if AMD manages to whoop intel's butt i dont think they ll be able to outperform and/or outprice AMD in the comming years. upgrading is a matter of what you have/need too. im going to pick up my fx-8370 in a moment and im seriously considering cfx on my r9 280x. and that comparison isnt really fair as the sixcore CPU is pretty much obsolete by now and was never meant for gaming anyway. at the fx series you ll have to deal with CMT, 4 threads on 8 cores, oposite of intel. you could say that im coing to pick up my quadcore that has 4 bonus cores. those bonus cores make it really smooth to alt+tab in/out of applications, run a few websites in the background and well, a rocksteady overall feeling. now imagine me, gaming with an actual 8core with bonus threads instead of bonus cores ^^ and dont give me that BS about core utelisation, software is slowly catching up to the hardware as we speak.

since i ve got an 8370, i can wait till hopefully the 2ng gen Zen. i cant wait for the vega and im not too impressed by the rx 480 (mostly the release wasnt spectacular, some even called it a major flaw). im not willing to spend 300 euros at this moment, but a used r9 280x would be just fine for a nice CFX setup, as my new mobo has 2 pcie x16 slots (and from what i ve read, it has actual x16 on the 2nd slot^^). therefore, i might be able to just sit back and game on and go back to reading and calculating maybe even AFTER the vega release (as in: the ones after that one). so how/why/when to upgrade? depending on OP's current platform OP should upgrade yesterday to an i5 or wait for the Zen

The Main problem with AMD chips lie in the fact that their single core processing power isn't very good, most of the highest population games such a Lol, Dota2, WOW, CS:GO and overwatch all rely on single core processing power to get the best FPS due to this some even high end AMD Chips struggle to get the same fps levels as their Intel counter parts do. I previously had a FX-8350 and it was fine there wasn't really anything wrong with it but it wasn't quite cutting the fps I wanted so I moved onto a I5-6600k my fps increase was insance, on league I was getting around 80fps with the FX-8350 but with the I5-6600k I can get upto 400fps. Unless Zen really changes things which in fairness they are trying to do there will be no reason to get AMD Zen chips over the Skylake chips.

again, dont compare a 4 year old cpu with a 2015 q3 intel, it s just not fair. i bought an fx 8370 because my fx 6100 had been in my rig waaay too long and i m waiting for the Zen. the reason i did it that way, well i planned on keeping that CPU in the mobo i had (asrock extreme 3) and then i realised i had a 4+1 powerbank, not really doing what it s supposed to do... so i bought an 8+2 mobo... my upgrade timing isnt really that well done, i ll give you that. but comparing a 2012 cpu with basically a 2016 cpu, well... yeah... you could do that, but why would you? offcourse, singlecore performance is a difference. but LOL happens to utelise 8 cores, i like that.

at the point where i should ve realised i should upgrade the whole rig, well i should ve bought an i5 setup since at that point it was a ''I CANT WAIT!!!''-scenario. at this point, i ve got an 8core that performs fine and im going to win 10 this evening (im kinda done with windows 7 despite the awesome layout i got used to). i should ve bought an i5 but i thought my asrock would be capable of holding that powerslurper 8core... now i m looking for a used r9 280x for cfx, hoping my 4 y/o PSU will hold that...