Intel Pentium G4620 And G4560 Review: Now With Hyper-Threading

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lhsbrandon

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Why do you use an old Piledriver based Athlon? I would think the newer models would be a little more competitive.
 

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I would like to have seen the G3258 overclocked to 4.0GHz (even bad silicon should reach that; I got 4.2GHz with a better sample). After all, a lot of people who bought that chip specifically intended to overclock it, which they could do even on H81 boards. That's an 800MHz bump over stock, which should be substantial. We'll still see where lack of hyperthreading hurts, but we'll get a better picture of what this chip can do.
 

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^agree, especially given that they OCed the Athlon, OCing the G3258 would have made sense.

I also would have preferred an i3-6100 rather than a 6320 in the results, given that the 6100 is the closest in specs to the new Pentiums, making it the natural choice for comparing Pentiums w/ HT to an i3. Also, the 6100 was the go-to budget gaming CPU recommendation since Skylake came out (don't think I've ever seen anyone recommend a 6320), a title which the G4560 is poised to steal. Although obviously the 6100 and 6320 perform pretty similarly, so it's not a huge deal.
 

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This is exactly what I was hoping for. Looks like for budget gaming, the 4560 is good enough and allows for a better GPU in the same budget. But for more professional applications, you still might want to make the jump to an i3 to get those AVX(2) instructions and in many cases this step up could be payed for by skipping the dGPU.
 

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Good catch, fixed!
 

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As an owner of the A10-7850k apu that has over (Equal to the Athlon X4 860k) that have the steamroller cores, the difference is not that big at the same clock speeds.

and base on anandtech review of the Athlon x4 845 (based on the Excavator core) when all generations of athlon bulldozer are benched marked together, the story doesn't change much there either.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10436/amd-carrizo-tested-generational-deep-dive-athlon-x4-845/10
 

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Although we did notice a performance hit in workloads optimized for AVX extensions, you can use an OpenCL-compatible GPU to augment performance in applications written with heterogeneous computing in mind.
Can anyone provide some background on AVX specifically how it would relate to transcoding? I am looking at the G4560 for a Windows 10 Plex server so would this even be an issue?
 

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liking the 4560 as a heck of a budget choice. can't wait to see what Ryzen brings to the picture. if the prices of the higher end Ryzen they released are any indicator, we may see some great performance at some very low prices.

but it's hard to deny the price/performance of a $65 4560 at this point in time!!
 

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The G4560 is absolutely the best budget choice for now. Much more attractive than G3258 or 4 core athlons. Alternatively, I might consider Bristol Ridge on AM4, but not sure if it will be released soon for do it yourself builds. Either would be a great upgrade to my athlon x2 250 and would leave me room for a nice future cpu upgrade.
 
The author of this article seems to be an amateur.
1) What type of silly review would only test a G3258 at STOCK speed? Who the hell buys a G3258 to run it at stock speed? The entire point of getting a G3258 is for overclocking - it is the overclockable pentium, and overclocks well even on cheap $30 H81 motherboards. Many, if not most people can hit at least 4.0GHz on a cheap motherboard with the STOCK cooler.
2) And no, the G3258 does not lag behind because of its "older architecture" like the author claims. The Haswell architechture in the G3258 has nearly the same IPC and same performance clock per clock as the G4560. What causes it to lag behind is the lack of hyper threading and slower stock speed - it has little to do with architechture improvements. Overclock the G3258 to 4GHz with the stock cooler and then see how well it performs against the G4560.
 

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An interesting review, but I'm baffled by your recommendation of a H270 or B250 motherboard for this (while at the same time arguing for keeping costs down). This chip is a match made in heaven for H110 boards (with BIOS updates for support, naturally). B250 makes some sense, but H270? Not in the slightest. You can get a H110 motherboard for ~$40. That's a perfect match for a $65 CPU.
 

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I got a 3258 and run it at stock speed, because it was the cheapest of them all (at microcenter) and I can't overclock with my Windows 2012 Server build. I'm seriously looking at the 4560 as a replacement, mainly because I can have 32GB DDR4 (vs 16GB DDR3) on a MITX motherboard in my small server (Node 304, 5x4TB plus 120GB SSD for boot and 1TB enterprise SSD for VM's).
 

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G4560-possibly the best budget CPU ever-making life real hard for AMD.

On a side note-the 7400 performance in handbrake seems out of proportion
compared to the 7500 in every other bench........
 

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Too little, too late.

Don't get me wrong these are nice, but they should have existed 2 years ago. Now they will have to compete with discounted piledriver/excavator chips that will destroy them, or even worse if AMD releases a 2c/4t processor.

AMD is already about to launch i5 equivalents for $130. Imagine what they could do at the $75 mark - probably an i3 killer that uses 30w...
 

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These Pentiums match or beat existing FX CPUs (piledriver) in most games and other lightly threaded workloads. Same thing goes for Athlon X4s (excavator). So exactly which piledriver/excavator chips are going to be doing said "destroying"?
 
Just as you have die hard AMD fans that will flock to the new AMD chips with abandon. There are a good number of Intel only fans to that will embrace these new Pentiums no mater what the Zen models offer.
 

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It's not late, it's the best time (for Intel). If they did this before, they would have sold less i3's.
Now, their Pentium and i3s sales aare facing a big threat (ryzen), so they need to do something to make it attractive.
There is no reason to make it more attractive when it's already the best (only) option available.
 

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Well g4560 will be the only CPU remaining after the complete ryzen lineup is released.
1200x , 1400x will be lowered clocked but OC capable of dethroning 7600k and 7700k. At almost half the price.
1600x competes directly with 6800/6850k.
1700x competes with 6900k. Not worth picking 1800x since both are OC capable. I make this considering the unlockable state of amds CPU.
Amd just made 7600/7700k CPU available for 150/200$ instead of 250/350$.
 
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