Uhh... $153 for a 1ghz dual core celeron seems ridiculous when an ivy bridge pentium 2020 costs $65 and if you downclocked it to 1ghz would probably be in the 15w range and give double the performance.
Uhh... $153 for a 1ghz dual core celeron seems ridiculous when an ivy bridge pentium 2020 costs $65 and if you downclocked it to 1ghz would probably be in the 15w range and give double the performance.
1) You can't under or over clock either chip
2) Performance would be identical
3) They're not for the same socket
How does this compare to the original C-50 from AMD which has been available for years and came in at 9 W?
Well it has an intergrated gpu so IM not sure they compare so well.
Picture ivy bridge dual core vs athlon2 x2
Not a pretty picture.
Not even an athlon II dual core, its really like an ivy bridge dual core vs an original Turion x2, the C50 gets absolutely destroyed.
I was being generous, i've seen POS systems using that cpu, once out of the os the thing had issues playing back higher res video not even at 1080P.
I haven't seen problems that severe unless they loaded the poor thing down with so much bloatware that it was super impeding performance. But you're right, they aren't going to win any speed races. What really gets me about the celeron is that price, 153 bucks for pretty much an underclocked and undervolted standard Celeron. I'd be very curious to see how many of these chips they actually sell, those margins have to be awesome on their end.
1) You can't under or over clock either chip
2) Performance would be identical
3) They're not for the same socket
1.) /facepalm. Are you really that naive? (look up "Speed Step")
2.) 2020 has 1MB more cache and 30% faster gpu clocks, See #1
3.) Who knew a BGA cpu wouldn't fit into an LGA socket, See #1
1) You can't under or over clock either chip
2) Performance would be identical
3) They're not for the same socket
1.) /facepalm. Are you really that naive? (look up "Speed Step")
2.) 2020 has 1MB more cache and 30% faster gpu clocks, See #1
3.) Who knew a BGA cpu wouldn't fit into an LGA socket, See #1
You seriously think 1MB of L3 cache and 30% GPU frequency is going to double performance?
Uhh... $153 for a 1ghz dual core celeron seems ridiculous when an ivy bridge pentium 2020 costs $65 and if you downclocked it to 1ghz would probably be in the 15w range and give double the performance.
Not the same market segment, i presume. And it's BGA, so it's for OEMs. Plus this chip will have a normal power consumption of around 7w (the SDP).
Ojas - I was just making a statement that this chip has a cost of $153, which is insane compared to the same architecture chip, using the same silicon costing $65. As for market segment, this type of release is not going to help Intel enter ARM's low power low cost market, so I would say this is for an imaginary market.
Blange - no I don't, that was an exaggeration, but the performance would be far from Identical
Ojas - I was just making a statement that this chip has a cost of $153, which is insane compared to the same architecture chip, using the same silicon costing $65. As for market segment, this type of release is not going to help Intel enter ARM's low power low cost market, so I would say this is for an imaginary market.
Blange - no I don't, that was an exaggeration, but the performance would be far from Identical
Not the *same* silicon. This stuff is binned to run at lower voltages. Same reason why chips that can achieve very high clocks are expensive.
Not the *same* silicon. This stuff is binned to run at lower voltages. Same reason why chips that can achieve very high clocks are expensive.
Did you know that binning is the process of testing products from the same batch, separating them based on their success/failure rate, disabling failed parts and labeling the products accordingly?
So yes, this is the same silicon, made in the same factory, using the same process and die, and on the same production line as any other 22nm CPU.