News Intel quietly slashes prices of Xeon 6 CPUs by up to $5,340

[Admin]

Intel significantly cut pricing for its newest Xeon 6 models. The flagship 128-core Xeon 6980P model is now available for $12,460, but it is still more expensive than AMD's range-topping EPYC 'Genoa.'

Intel quietly slashes prices of Xeon 6 CPUs by up to $5,340 : Read more

 

[oofdragon]

AMD still faster and utilize way less TDP, at this point Intel should start giving their CPUs for free

 

[TTech002]

Not sure when the "AMD's top-of-the-line 96-core EPYC 9654" was accurate.
The 4th gen had the EPYC 9754 128/256 Zen 4c CPU at the top for CPU count.
Currently, it is the EPYC 9755 128/256 Zen 5 or the EPYC 9965 Zen 5c 192/384 CPU.

 

[j1mm4]

Love AI slop articles. Is it or is it not more expensive than AMD EPYC? The table of data you provide seems to suggest Xeon's more expensive than EPYC still at all configurations, but you flip flop between whether or not that's the case. Please proof read your AI dumps.

 

[User of Computers]

Turin has existed for multiple months. Why are you comparing to Genoa?

 

[A Stoner]

Lowering the prices is great, and they would not do that if they did not have product to move. So it shows that they are at least producing these things in large enough numbers to slash prices with good yeilds.

Sounds like good news for Intel.

 

[Cooe]

🤦 ... Except Genoa (Zen 4) ISN'T AMD'S CURRENT EPYC GENERATION!!! THAT'S TURIN (Zen 5) & TURIN DENSE (Zen 5c)!!!

I'm sorry Anton but this article is nothing but pointless misinformed garbage other than the info about Intel's price cuts.... 😑

Did AI write this trash?... O__o ... I'm seriously confused how someone who's been in the industry for as long as Anton could mess this up SO freaking bad...

IMO I'd take it down completely and rewrite it from scratch, but that's just me. 🤷

 

[TheSecondPower]

Price is largely driven by demand, yields, and manufacturing allocation. More or less: demand / (manufacturing allocation × yields) = price. Manufacturing allocation probably changes slowly, so now yields of Intel 3 exceed demand at launch pricing. This might be bad for Intel but on the other hand it suggests Intel 3 is now available for more products, such as the upcoming 288-core version of Sierra Forest or a Meteor Lake refresh or a tile for Panther Lake (SoC or I/O). The 144-core 6780E was $11,350 (Tech Power Up) and is now $8,153 (Intel Ark) and the 288-core model was promised for H2 2024, so it's overdue.

 

[prezhdarov]

And how many of these "cheaper" Xeon parts do not require water cooling? It's really hard to find air cooled Xeons with decent speeds and core density and most data centres wouldn't allow water cooled servers...

 

[bit_user]

No mention of ARM? I guess AmpereOne isn't very competitive, except maybe in perf/W, and it's the lone ARM server CPU on the open market (there's also Nvidia's Grace, but I think nobody is buying that just for regular server workloads).

The hyperscalers all have ARM CPUs, but the article points out that there's no reason for Intel to adjust list prices for their benefit, since they would all be negotiating special prices and SKUs with Intel, already.

 

[bit_user]

And how many of these "cheaper" Xeon parts do not require water cooling? It's really hard to find air cooled Xeons with decent speeds and core density and most data centres wouldn't allow water cooled servers...

Phoronix tested the 500 W Xeon 6980P in an air-cooled 4U dual-CPU server:

https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-xeon-6980p-performance
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[bit_user]

Lowering the prices is great, and they would not do that if they did not have product to move. So it shows that they are at least producing these things in large enough numbers to slash prices with good yeilds.

Sounds like good news for Intel.

It's never overall good news for a company, when they cut prices!

I agree that there's a silver lining to this, which is that it suggests Intel 3 costs and yields are probably shaping up well. But, I'm sure Intel would much rather keep charging the original prices, if they could get enough takers.

 

[ekio]

If there was no competition like 15 years ago, they would be still selling 8 cores Xeon cpus for 20k saying that it's what they're worth...

 

[anoldnewb]

And how many of these "cheaper" Xeon parts do not require water cooling? It's really hard to find air cooled Xeons with decent speeds and core density and most data centres wouldn't allow water cooled servers...

Most data centers don't care about fan noise. I'm sure two 500 W Xeon 6980P in an air-cooled 4U dual-CPU server makes quite a racket. Do people wear headphones when they enter a big server room?

 

[SomeoneElse23]

AMD still faster and utilize way less TDP, at this point Intel should start giving their CPUs for free

I'd take one if they paid me to!

 

[das_stig]

TH making misleading claims if not bending the truth again for Intel.

"The range-topping 128-core Xeon 6980P is now less expensive than AMD's top-of-the-line 96-core EPYC 9654"

Yes on a per core basis, but as a cpu, still more expensive.

 

[prezhdarov]

Phoronix tested the 500 W Xeon 6980P in an air-cooled 4U dual-CPU server:

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https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-xeon-6980p-performance​

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Most data centers don't care about fan noise. I'm sure two 500 W Xeon 6980P in an air-cooled 4U dual-CPU server makes quite a racket. Do people wear headphones when they enter a big server room?

This is great and no, the noise isn't the problem there. The density however. During the last refresh of my employer's infra the only dual socket Xeon that had decent base clock - of 3GHz and more - and could be air cooled in 1U server had the whooping 8 (eight) cores. Compared to a 2 x 32 cores Genoa offering from AMD at 3.25GHz base clock.. Not to mention the much faster memory and other lovely benefits. That swayed even those skeptical to go AMD route in team red direction.

 

[DS426]

Turin has existed for multiple months. Why are you comparing to Genoa?

^ This. But then Turin gets talked about a little, so... what the hoot?

Intel wouldn't slash the prices like this if they were selling in ample numbers. Now, they'll get product moving but at lower (but more appropriate) margins. I don't think they'll regain any market share -- only slow down the hemorrhaging.