Intel Ramps Additional 14nm Manufacturing Facility To Address Shortage

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Maybe they should cut down on the number of chipsets they have? AMD has 3 and that is enough. Z390 is a complete waste of resources and brings almost nothing to the table.
 
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Prices aren't plunging for dram, I doubt this shortage will be felt much. Probably 60% of people are fine with amd and some prefer it.
 

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Yeah, but for all you know it was an iterative development that cost them almost no investment to roll out but allows them to sell more chipsets. In fact I would bet on it.

 

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These new modems are small, as outlined in iFixit's iPhone XS and XS Max teardown that it posted today

How do you figure? It's the biggest chip in the picture. The last generation 7460 had a die size of 70mm2.

Intel's average die size shipped is only 100mm2. Even if the 7560 is only 50mm2, lets say with 140 million units sold, that's going to increase Intel's wafer requirements 30% overnight as the previous generation was using TSMC's process!
 

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Couple questions:
1) I think Intel told people they were making 100% of Apples Modems... so 50M might be the number. DO you know tht Qualcomm has some business on Xs Modems?
2) Intel has been shipping from Vietnam and most products are qualified. I think this is more formal decision on something that has been possible. do you think test facility is the limiter on 14nm?
 

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Unless I missed something in this article, which to me almost comes across as an Intel infomercial, it fails to say who caused this, self inflicted?, problem in the first place. It is not like this is Intel's first day at the rodeo. What if AMD's chips had not turned out to be as good as they are and more PCs were still being built with Intel chips. This problem would be even worse than it is. Finally, to be clear, my personal home computer is an intel i5, so I am not a AMD fanboy.
 

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Their 10 nm production has taking unreasonably long to bring online. They planned around having that capacity available, when deciding how much 14 nm production they would be running.

Combine that with a strong economy and Intel's first meaningfully faster CPUs in a while (i.e. 6-core Coffee Lake and upcoming 8-cores - both of which are *bigger dies* = fewer per wafer) and I think you have a recipe for something like this.

P.S. if AMD's chips had been weaker, I'd bet Intel would not be bringing 8-core chips to the desktop, right now.