News Intel Raptor Lake Refresh: Entire Lineup Revealed in New Leak

[Admin]

Hardware leaker YuuKi_AnS shares the alleged specifications for Intel's 14th Generation Raptor Lake Refresh processor lineup.

Intel Raptor Lake Refresh: Entire Lineup Revealed in New Leak : Read more

 

[Neilbob]

Death, taxes and Intel segmentation.

 

[Order 66]

no i3-14100? when will intel give the i3 6 cores?

 

[eye4bear]

The beginning of this articles second paragraph starts as follows: "As with any significant Intel processor launch, the high-end K-series models..." can someone please explain to me how this qualifies as significant?

 

[Order 66]

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The beginning of this articles second paragraph starts as follows: "As with any significant Intel processor launch, the high-end K-series models..." can someone please explain to me how this qualifies as significant?

if it was 15th gen maybe but a refresh of 13th gen which is rumored to only give a 5% performance increase doesn't seem significant.

 

[Order 66]

LOL, but I believe LTT is better after their self imposed 1 week halt in videos.

 

[TerryLaze]

no i3-14100? when will intel give the i3 6 cores?

They misslabeled them as i5...
I3 with 6cores will not happen soon.
Maybe they'll add some e-cores in a few gens.

Core i5-14100T	4P + 0E	2.7 / N/A	12	35	H0	DDR4-3200 / DDR5-4800	No
Core i5-14100F	4P + 0E	3.5 / N/A	12	58	H0	DDR4-3200 / DDR5-4800	No
Core i5-14100	4P + 0E	3.5 / N/A	12	60	H0	DDR4-3200 / DDR5-4800	No

The beginning of this articles second paragraph starts as follows: "As with any significant Intel processor launch, the high-end K-series models..." can someone please explain to me how this qualifies as significant?

The one who wrote it was tired off using the term mayor and looked up alternatives on the web...or they just used google translate to make the article.

 

[Order 66]

I3 with 6cores will not happen soon.

the first quad core i3 was the i3 8300. Maybe by 16th gen, it will have 6 cores.

 

[cyrusfox]

the first quad core i3 was the i3 8300. Maybe by 16th gen, it will have 6 cores.

use to only be i3/i5/i7 until 9th gen released i9 desktop (7th gen for the prosumer), so with that shift up in the product stack that puts i3 closer to old pentium and celeron territory. Agree with others, will get e-cores before it gets more P cores.

Clean product strategy to keep i3 as the quad cores of old, i5 6 cores, i7 8 cores, little room for i9 differentiation (more e-cores). I9 containing the same P core count as an i7, but they are bought for the better binning and turbo, the extra e-cores may be useful but outside of rendering on my 13900, I wish I would have saved a bit of cash and just went with a 13700.

If low power performance is improved on 14th gen, I will sideways upgrade to either a 14700/14900 early next year. Otherwise I'll keep rocking my 13900 till arrow/lunar lake. Too bad meteorlake larger dies are absent and we have to do yet another refresh, which much prefer the boost of performance per watt that should bring.

 

[thestryker]

It'll be interesting to see if the 300/300T really do support ECC as those could make high performance NAS at a lower cost.

 

[bit_user]

The Alder Lake desktop product line was based on two different dies: an 8+8 "big" die and a 6+0 "small" die. It seems to me that Raptor Lake and now this Refresh are only updating the "big" die. The non- E-core models still seem to be based on that original Alder Lake 6+0 die. At least, looking at the cache & memory specifications, that's sure what it seems like.

Prove me wrong, @TerryLaze .

 

[bit_user]

It'll be interesting to see if the 300/300T really do support ECC as those could make high performance NAS at a lower cost.

Yes... but. As long as ECC support still requires a W680 board, that's going to dominate your BoM. I haven't seen a W680 board for less than about $350.

BTW, here's the current list of LGA1700 CPUs with ECC support. You'll note some Embedded Celerons and Pentium Gold models, but I'll bet those aren't easy for the DIY builder to source (I don't see any on ebay):

Intel product specifications

Intel® product specifications, features and compatibility quick reference guide and code name decoder. Compare products including processors, desktop boards, server products and networking products.

ark.intel.com

Currently, your cheapest practical option is a i5-12500, if you want Intel. If you go with AMD, all of their non-APU models support ECC.

 

[thestryker]

Currently, your cheapest practical option is a i5-12500, if you want Intel. If you go with AMD, all of their non-APU models support ECC.

If the 300 costs about the same as the current Pentium of ~$70 that's still a savings of around $150. There's a lot that doesn't necessarily need a lot of CPU cores, but may be preferable with ECC support and this is unfortunately the cheapest way to get it.

AFAIK no AM5 motherboards support ECC even though the CPUs themselves certainly do. AMD once again screwing up with regards to straightforward ECC support.

The Alder Lake desktop product line was based on two different dies: an 8+8 "big" die and a 6+0 "small" die. It seems to me that Raptor Lake and now this Refresh are only updating the "big" die. The non- E-core models still seem to be based on that original Alder Lake 6+0 die. At least, looking at the cache & memory specifications, that's sure what it seems like.

Prove me wrong, @TerryLaze .

FWIW based on the leak I'd bet it's a lot more than just those based on the number listing DDR5 4800 support.

 

[bit_user]

AFAIK no AM5 motherboards support ECC even though the CPUs themselves certainly do. AMD once again screwing up with regards to straightforward ECC support.

I haven't looked into the matter, but that appears to be inaccurate:

AMD Ryzen 7000 Series Make For Compelling Budget Servers, Leading Performance & Value Over Xeon E Review - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

I'm using ECC on AM4, myself.

FWIW based on the leak I'd bet it's a lot more than just those based on the number listing DDR5 4800 support.

Some of the Raptor Lake (Gen 13) models appear to be based on the Alder Lake "big" die. It's plausible those dies have even found their way into the Gen 14 lineup.

 

[thestryker]

I haven't looked into the matter, but that appears to be inaccurate:

AMD Ryzen 7000 Series Make For Compelling Budget Servers, Leading Performance & Value Over Xeon E Review - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

I meant on the more affordable side. Those boards all cost as much or more than W680 based boards while having less connectivity which doesn't make them a good alternative in my estimation.

 

[bit_user]

I meant on the more affordable side. Those boards all cost as much or more than W680 based boards while having less connectivity which doesn't make them a good alternative in my estimation.

The ASRock Rack boards, specifically, do have less connectivity because they're mostly mini-ITX or micro-ATX. I have one Intel and one AMD. Their pricing is similar, regardless of which CPU they host.

I just cited it as an example of an AM5 board with ECC.

 

[TerryLaze]

The Alder Lake desktop product line was based on two different dies: an 8+8 "big" die and a 6+0 "small" die. It seems to me that Raptor Lake and now this Refresh are only updating the "big" die. The non- E-core models still seem to be based on that original Alder Lake 6+0 die. At least, looking at the cache & memory specifications, that's sure what it seems like.

Prove me wrong, @TerryLaze .

Why should I prove you wrong?
And what is the issue anyway?! At least Intel is still making cheap CPUs and they are still faster than the ones they replace.