Intel Readies New 313 Series Caching SSDs for Ivy Bridge

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EDVINASM

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Can someone explain why should this 20GB drive should be purchased for $100 when 80GB is only $20 more? Lightning fast speeds? Sexy casing?
 

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I think we can all agree $1-2 per GB is a standard now for SSD. 5$ per gigabyte too much I don't see the point in paying that much for very limited storage. I understand this is a cache drive but for 20Gb you can get alot more bang for your buck.
 

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It's SLC NAND. It's durable and hence expensive. MLC is not durable enough for a cache drive. Constant writes would wear MLC out too quickly. SLC is ideal for cache. Yes it is expensive, yet reliable for this application.
 

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To me this is both a waste of time making this useless POS, and a waste of money for anyone who would fall for this ****.

(go ahead thumb me down)

But to me, a better or at least decent boot drive has to be at minimum 120GB.
I would prefer mSata 120GB IF they would use their OWN controller without having to disable one SATA
controller.

mSATA disables one SATA controller which makes it a BAD choice.
(I want the flexibility to ADD more TB drives, so loosing ONE SATA controller does not make me happy at all)
 

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These are intended as use as cache drives working with Intel Smart Response Technology. You do not install anything to them. 20GB is more than sufficient for space in this role and because this is a SLC drive it's going to stand up to the wear of the cache writes. If you have no interest in SSD caching then obviously you'll look elsewhere.
 

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[citation][nom]a4mula[/nom]These are intended as use as cache drives working with Intel Smart Response Technology. You do not install anything to them. 20GB is more than sufficient for space in this role and because this is a SLC drive it's going to stand up to the wear of the cache writes. If you have no interest in SSD caching then obviously you'll look elsewhere.[/citation]So why not just have 24GB or more of system memory and create a cache drive off of that on boot up? It would be faster and cheaper.
 

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These are NOT intended to use as any VISIBLE disk at all.
I'm using two X25-E 32GB for my squid proxy machine as cache storage, and these need faster replacement, since number of users went up from 20 to 80. When you compare the X25-E and 313, these are practically as for free. I'm in! Simple H67 mobo will suffice for four of them. After that upgrade old X25-Es will end up in raid 1 as boot drives.
 

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[citation][nom]edvinasm[/nom]Can someone explain why should this 20GB drive should be purchased for $100 when 80GB is only $20 more? Lightning fast speeds? Sexy casing?[/citation]
SLC
 

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[citation][nom]mcvf[/nom]SLC[/citation]

Maybe so. Still, only good for performance hungry i.e. server applications etc. As for caching better use one SSD as boot and whatever else for storage. Only a gimmick IMO for home use. I have Intel Sata3 SSD as main drive and PC boots in ~30sec. 40 if have all my office software starting. And that's on cheapo Z68 board + i3 2100.
 
1) this is a cache drive, not a boot drive, so it does not need to be effective (though a 20 and 40GB option would make more sense than 20 and 24).

2) This is SLC which means it will last longer... but load balancing on a larger MLC would likely last just as long if not longer for the same price or less.

3) SATA2? Seriously? Even cheap SATA3 drives will run circles around this thing when it comes to throughput... and at a much cheaper price point.
 
[citation][nom]caedenv[/nom]1) this is a cache drive, not a boot drive, so it does not need to be effective [/citation]
lol, I think I meant "does not need to be large to be effective"... I am sure it needs to be effective in the general sense :p
 

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Also, knowing the HDD market prognosis for next 6 months it is hard to see what these SSDs will be accelerating :) No way I am buying 2 WD Blue for RAID or even storage anymore. SSDs and the rest just keep deleting when not needed.
 
This is a waste, $5/GB in this day and age? Come on Intel!

I also would go against SRT - it's better to go for a full blown - ssd than having an SSD as a cache for your HDD. This way your SSD is working 100% of time time rather than when your OS/Programs get loaded after a few sessions in an SRT setup.
 
[citation][nom]syrious1[/nom]so is SLC used in conjunction with MCL drives? what is the point of a cache drive if your other drives are SSD already?[/citation]
you wouldnt as your SSD drives are likely faster than this is. this would be to cache a standard HDD
 
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To be perfectly clear

This is a solid state CACHE, not a solid state drive. As others have mentioned, this is meant to be used in conjunction with a mechanical hard disk, not an SSD. To this end, it was built with SLC, not MLC NAND. SLC NAND last 100,000 write/erase cycles, vs. 3000 for MLC. It is expensive because it is durable. The size: 20 GB is plenty for cache. SATA II speeds are fine for cache.

This is not the same as having a RAM cache, which disappears when you power off the machine. This SS cache retains information on power down. This means it can retain the boot sector and other info for lightening fast boot ups, rather than having to access the slow hard drive with which it works conjunction.

I know you still don't get it, but I thought I'd try anyway ;-)

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