News Intel Shows Off Lunar Lake-Based PC, Unveils Panther Lake for 2025

[Admin]

Intel's Lunar Lake swiftly generates Taylor Swift-like composition

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[bit_user]

Unless Arrow Lake ends up being a Desktop-only model, it's hard for me to see how/why they would pack so many generations into such a short amount of time. By my count, they're packing 3 new CPU generations into not much more than 12 months!

• Meteor Lake (Intel 4) - Q4 2023
• Arrow Lake (Intel 20A) - Q? 2024
• Lunar Lake (Intel 18A) - Q4? 2024

Then, Panther Lake in 2025? What node is that even going to be on? I don't recall hearing about anything beyond 18A, but it must be an announced node if it's launching in 2025.

 

[Unolocogringo]

Maybe they have a lot of advanced designs that would not work on the 14+++++++++++++++ node.
Smaller dies means more cpus per wafer. And higher yields.

 

[bit_user]

Maybe they have a lot of advanced designs that would not work on the 14+++++++++++++++ node.

Yes, but what's been leaked about Meteor & Arrow Lake doesn't seem terribly impressive.

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Intel Meteor Lake Core Ultra 7 1002H Leaked in Geekbench

Results won't make owners of laptops with previous gen CPUs envious

www.tomshardware.com

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Intel Raptor Lake Refresh, Arrow Lake CPU Performance Projections Leaked

Arrow Lake's up to 21% faster than Raptor Lake with an over 2X faster iGPU.

www.tomshardware.com

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Smaller dies means more cpus per wafer. And higher yields.

New process nodes also tend to be more expensive, so it's not a pure win.

 

[kwohlt]

Not to be that guy, but these CPUs have been rebranded. Lunar Lake is not "15th gen". It's 2nd gen.

 

[dehjomz]

Unless Arrow Lake ends up being a Desktop-only model, it's hard for me to see how/why they would pack so many generations into such a short amount of time. By my count, they're packing 3 new CPU generations into not much more than 12 months!

• Meteor Lake (Intel 4) - Q4 2023
• Arrow Lake (Intel 20A) - Q? 2024
• Lunar Lake (Intel 18A) - Q4? 2024

Then, Panther Lake in 2025? What node is that even going to be on? I don't recall hearing about anything beyond 18A, but it must be an announced node if it's launching in 2025.

Seems like pat is trying to make a return to the 1990s where processors would come out and be excellent and then be obsolete within 6 months. What a time that was.

 

[WebDevDeadDrop]

Unless Arrow Lake ends up being a Desktop-only model, it's hard for me to see how/why they would pack so many generations into such a short amount of time. By my count, they're packing 3 new CPU generations into not much more than 12 months!

• Meteor Lake (Intel 4) - Q4 2023
• Arrow Lake (Intel 20A) - Q? 2024
• Lunar Lake (Intel 18A) - Q4? 2024

Then, Panther Lake in 2025? What node is that even going to be on? I don't recall hearing about anything beyond 18A, but it must be an announced node if it's launching in 2025.

Arrow Lake is Desktop only as far as I know.

With Intel's move to tiles they seem to be moving to a mobile layout that gets its own name and a desktop layout that gets its own name.

Seems they are rearranging the tiles and making core optimizations for the different segments now that they can disaggregate tiles and mix and match features because of the smaller designs and the increase in ease of design with newer more powerful design tools coming out. There is even a slide they showed off today bragging that Meteor Lake tiles were AI assisted designs.

 

[thestryker]

Unless Arrow Lake ends up being a Desktop-only model, it's hard for me to see how/why they would pack so many generations into such a short amount of time. By my count, they're packing 3 new CPU generations into not much more than 12 months!

• Meteor Lake (Intel 4) - Q4 2023
• Arrow Lake (Intel 20A) - Q? 2024
• Lunar Lake (Intel 18A) - Q4? 2024

Then, Panther Lake in 2025? What node is that even going to be on? I don't recall hearing about anything beyond 18A, but it must be an announced node if it's launching in 2025.

Perhaps what we'll see with ARL/LNL is like what we're getting with RPL-R/MTL where MTL covers most of mobile with RPL-R only handling highest performance SKUs.