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Unless something significant changes between pre-launch reviews and launch, Rocket Lake will be a somewhat tough recommendation between much less extra performance per core than expected and setting new power draw records. Intel appears to have hit the practical performance ceiling for 14nm+++++.
 

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I'm not expecting any miracle firmware this close to release. As is usually the case, power usage for typically computing isn't going to be that big a deal, but the peaks the 11700k is showing makes you wonder what the 11900k is going to do. Unless Intel did some insane binning, the 11900k is going to push well into OC'd Intel HEDT power usage territory with just regular boosting.
 
the peaks the 11700k is showing makes you wonder what the 11900k is going to do.
It going to be the same CPU, same amount of cores, just 100-200Mhz faster at same conditions due to the binning and about $100 more expensive, the only reason intel will even release it is because why wouldn't they take $100 more from people for the same thing.

Each gen has a maximum that is written in stone, it's PL4 and you can't go over that no matter how much reviewers are going to try.
 

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It going to be the same CPU, same amount of cores, just 100-200Mhz faster at same conditions due to the binning and about $100 more expensive, the only reason intel will even release it is because why wouldn't they take $100 more from people for the same thing.

Each gen has a maximum that is written in stone, it's PL4 and you can't go over that no matter how much reviewers are going to try.
It's pretty clear, the 11700k is already way out of the efficiency sweet spot for the node it's using. An additional 2-300Mhz is not going to pull the same power. People buying an 11900k are also likely to try and push it beyond stock. Whatever pl4 is is irrelevant as it isn't low enough to prevent people from frying their CPU's. Jayz2cents did an overclocking video for one of Intel's 18 core HEDT CPU's and managed to get system power usage up to 750W running CPU benchmarks. That would put CPU usage past 500W's when stock would be low 200's He wasn't alone. Below is GamersNexus. 248W stock for 7960x, 486W overclocked.
 
It's pretty clear, the 11700k is already way out of the efficiency sweet spot for the node it's using. An additional 2-300Mhz is not going to pull the same power.
Look up silicon lottery, for both ryzen and intel, higher tier CPUs have better silicon so they get higher clocks with the same power and or less vcore.
People buying an 11900k are also likely to try and push it beyond stock. Whatever pl4 is is irrelevant as it isn't low enough to prevent people from frying their CPU's.
What are you not getting, PL4 is the absolute max you can not go above ,it's hardcoded into the CPU and the review already showed what it is. Overclocking will give higher clocks with that same power limit or the same clocks with less power since the mobo just pumps all the power into the socket that the socket can take while an overclock will only push as much as needed.

Yes HEDT had even better silicon and server has even better silicon yet, they are made with the best silicon possible.
 

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