Intel to Release Details on 32nm Chip Fabrication Technology at 54th IEDM

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IBM (not AMD) claimed a functional 22nm SRAM CELL, but no actual details were given. This could mean as little as 6 or 8 working transistors (which comprise an SRAM cell). How you could go from this to expecting a working chip next year is insanity.

You cannot compare a working 2 BILLION transistor SRAM chip and think 6 working transistors means a 22nm IBM (or AMD) chip is coming soon! Are you suggesting they may skip 32nm altogether? Heck even the 45nm are not really out yet - are they just going to run that node for 1 year, skip the next node of 32nm and go to 22nm? You will not see any 22nm chips until at least 2012 (possibly end of 2011 for Intel).

You will also note the IBM cell was a 0.1um density which is not quite 1/2 (which would be expected) of the 0.17um density Intel quoted on the larger technology node. In all likelihood IBM, took some liberties on what "22nm" means - again the lack of details here is quite odd for a company like IBM to leave out... the only detail given was
 

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The author clearly has no clue as to how silicon fabrication works. To suggest that IBM's sram cell will yield a working production chip (for AMD) within a year is simply laughable at best.

Fire this joker and hire some writers that don't put an obvious slant on every article they write. This site will remain a joke until then.
 

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Then why do you come here? Don't like it leave. Nobody can predict the future. And yes amd's best bet would be to skip a couple steps to jump ahead of intel.
 
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Best bet? As if they get to just choose that path and take it instead.

People come here because it USED to be a good site, and vendors still give them early press releases. No one can deny the quality has plummeted though.
 

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nah, you don't know the economy and technical of making chips.
no one can possibly skip a process shrink, its just too difficult and too expensive. its less difficult to go that 32nm process and make money from it first before going directly to 22nm.
don't worry about amd. they don't need to beat intel's best chips but needs too compete closer than we see today.
 

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Yea.... 22nm from AMD in 2009..... right.... ok I think he might have thought 32nm? Because the thing is that although IBM announced 22nm SRAM they didn't disclose the info which means they probably don't have it to the point of being able to use yet. And it would take much more than 9-12 months to get it from that state to working.
 

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If you guys would read a bit more closely, the author says 22nm chips from AMD and doesn't specify when. S/he only specifies the date for 32nm from Intel which they have firmly announced. I guess you could argue that the sentence structure is pretty good at drawing a rise out of people though.
 

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22nm would be good, but so far only IMB has talked about it, so it's a long way for AMD to adapt it. All in all the leap directly to 22 for AMD would be nice, but as many has said, difficult to achieve, even the IBM would give all their secrets to AMD... that in itself is guite douptfull.
 

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I am sure AMD will release another low voltage 65nm Athlon X2 to counter Westmere seeing how many fan boys think Brisbane beats Wolfdale/Yorkfield.
 

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small details and kflipflop98:

1) Please take your anger to your local gym and work it out there.
2) Read the article carefully to get the presented facts correct as written.
3) Calm yourself if somehow the article you have read has upset your equanimity.
4) Write a concise, informative response.

Sincerely,
All Readers
 
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flipflop is right on the money ! this site has seriously gone down the gurgler.... the writers simply gobble-up press releases & marketing propaganda, without having the faintest clue about chip fabrication & what's actually happening @ the physical level @ the scales we are reaching today & in the very near future.... I used to enjoy reading stuff on this site a while back.... lately it's become a really messy trash bag hypo pile of nonsense & Fox News inspired balony....
 

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Nice, I just recently build a Core 2 Duo e8400 system, and while the Core i7 looks great, not really worth replacing my shiney new system. But a 32nm Core i7 is more tempting. I generally let any technology smolder for a good 6 months or more before I jump on it, mostly to ride the first price drop.
 

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Please lamorpa, who are you to sign by 'All Readers' ?

'small details' and 'kflipflop98' were entirely correct on the matter,
though the form could have been better.

1 & 3: don't show anger and calm yourself:
Sure, but you still have the right to laugh at stupidities.

2 & 4 Read the Article carefully and Write a concise, informative response:
Well isn't it exactly what 'small details' and 'kflipflop98' did?

"we can expect to start seeing 32nm chips from Intel around the third or fourth quarter of 2009 and 22nm chips from AMD.
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