Intel VS Ryzen

Itz_TryFX

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So I am hopefully going to buy gaming pc parts and make the computer myself. Now I was wondering, Ryzen or Intel. Now obviously for some it is a easy choice but when you are a 15 year old kid with a budget around £1,000. It can get difficult to decide sometimes.

AMD Parts:

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£189.19 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (£98.80 @ Alza)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£119.50 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.95 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (£497.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.10 @ PC World Business)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£78.97 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1,179.84

Intel Parts:

CPU - Intel I5 7600K 7th Gen Core Desktop Processor
CPU Cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
GPU - EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC GAMING Black Edition
Motherboard - MSI Pro Series Intel Z270
SSD - ADATA Premier 240GB Solid State Drive
HDD - Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
Case: Corsair - SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case
PSU - Seasonic S12II 620 BRONZE Power Supply

Now I have not completed my Intel Parts list yet but this is my basic structure I have not put the intel list to a pcpartpicker so I currently don't know the price for it but I know it is around £1,000.

RAM:
Now I have one question, is 16GB Ram really necessary for games like GTA 5 and PUBG? I have friends who play PUBG and they say you must have 16GB and it really is needed. Is this true? Or would it be wiser to drop to 8GB Ram considering my budget? Please note that if some things are really necessary for the current games and technology I would gladly pay the extra and go ahead and buy it.

GPU:
I have found out that there is only a max £50-£60 difference, would it be wise to just pay the extra money and get a GTX 1070 ti instead of a GTX 1070? If it is worth the upgrade then please let me know :)

Monitor:
So as you can see on both of my lists I have nothing for monitors. That is because I know nothing about monitors, all I know is that considering I'm getting a GTX 1070 for my Intel based option a 1440p monitor would be pointless and a waste of money and the best option is a 1080p monitor? Now I have heard of G-Sync and Freesync but I don't know what they are. On the other hand on my Ryzen based option I would be getting a GTX 1080 so a 1080p monitor is overkill and a wise option would be a 1440p monitor. I would please want a monitor option/s for both of my lists. Also keep in mind that above I said that I could be getting the GTX 1070 ti if that is wiser to get, I don't know if it makes a difference but I would assume it would.

AMD:
GTX 1080:

Intel:
GTX 1070/ti:
 
Your AMD build is very good. Intel build however could be better.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (£173.99 @ BT Shop)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£99.18 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£152.38 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£71.66 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.79 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card (£474.35 @ Alza)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case (£48.50 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£78.29 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1136.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-29 20:27 GMT+0000

Generally, you want 16 GB of RAM if you can afford it. It helps a lot.
No reviews of 1070ti yet, so no answer to this one.
Since you aim for Nvidia GPU, you want monitor with GSync. For gtx 1080 (but my guess is for 1070ti too), you should go for 1440p resolution monitor. Not an expert on this topic, so I'll pass on recommendation.
 


Now I see you have picked a GTX 1080 and 16GB ram, so I guess it really is needed, also you made a comment about the monitor and said you have no idea what to say about it. I really appreciate you improving my list also note that black friday and cyber monday is in 24 days or so and I will be getting these parts then so if there is anything extra that I could go for while everything is cheap please let me know.
 


First reviews of 1070ti should be available in no more then 2 days, I'll get back to you then, with answer whether 1080 or 1070ti is better buy.
As for upgrading that build, if you can get i5-8600K at good price, then it's certainly worth taking it instead of i5-8400. However, in such case you would need a cooler. 212 EVO you selected in first build is ok, but Cryorig H7 is better. Also, since 8600K is overclockable, slightly better motherboard is good move too. This is how it looks after changes:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£303.47 @ BT Shop)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£28.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus - TUF Z370 Plus Gaming ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£134.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£228.44 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£71.23 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.79 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card (£510.00 @ Aria PC)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case (£48.50 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£78.28 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1441.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-01 18:44 GMT+0000
 


Now I see that you have gone for a £1.4k build, now I also have to bare in mind that if I would want to go for such a expensive build without even including a monitor the price which adds up to probably 200-400 more I would have to save money for even longer, right now I have about £1000 and I am going to keep saving to Black Friday which is on Friday 24th November so that means I could save around £500 MAX which is being pushed to the limit. Now I want to know if I can bu all of those parts on black friday and cyber monday, now if I need like £100-250 more I could maybe get those extra bits from family members. But still I'm wondering if with £1000 right now I could go ahead and buy that pc on Black friday and Cyber Monday
 
It is impossible to predict which parts will get discounts on Black friday. Heck, look at those builds, I've used same GPU on both, and yet few days difference means almost 40 pounds difference in price. Not too mention 70 difference on RAM. The best you can do ahead, is to prepare builds now, and decide which to follow when you see the prices. If you find you need to make cuts to fit in budget, first thing would be to go down with GPU from 1080 to 1070 ti, then reduce amount of RAM from 16 to 8 Gb.
 


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Why is this part so cheap and is it a normal GTX 1080, or is it like a bad version? Will it do the same as the other GTX 1080s?
 


That's a very overpriced gtx 1060.
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£178.50 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty X370 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (£129.24 @ More Computers)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£176.19 @ Alza)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£82.40 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.79 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8GB Video Card (£321.70 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case (£48.50 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£89.93 @ BT Shop)
Monitor: LG - 29UM68-P 29.0" 2560x1080 60Hz Monitor (£248.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1313.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-01 21:31 GMT+0000

Included a Freesync monitor and a RX vega 56 (bit above 1070 level) as gpu.
 


Oh I thought it was a GTX 1080 not a GTX 1060, didn't see sorry.

 


You said that the RX vega 56 is a bit above a GTX 1070 when I went onto youtube and with a i7-6700K there is a 20 FPS difference with a GTX 1070 taking the lead all the time?
It can only do about 60-70 FPS on GTA 5 and 40-50 on PUBG? A GTX 1070 can do way better than that?

Also please note that I would take Intel as a plan A and a Ryzen part option as a plan B+
I will put down below what my first and backup plans are.

Plan A:

Intel Parts:

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (£173.99 @ BT Shop)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£99.18 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£152.38 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£71.66 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.79 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card (£474.35 @ Alza)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case (£48.50 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£78.29 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1136.14


Plan B:
Intel Parts 2:

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£303.47 @ BT Shop)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£28.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus - TUF Z370 Plus Gaming ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£134.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£228.44 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£71.23 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.79 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card (£510.00 @ Aria PC)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case (£48.50 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£78.28 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1441.68

Plan C:
AMD Parts:

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£189.19 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (£98.80 @ Alza)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£119.50 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.95 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (£497.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.10 @ PC World Business)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£78.97 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1,179.84
 


What is Freesync, gsync and Async? What are the differences and which is the best. Also are you saying that if I was to get the Vega 56 I would get more performance out of it and see it on the monitor than the gtx 1080?
 


Adaptive sync (async) is a technology that matches your monitors refresh rate with the fps of your game preventing screen tearing and making your games look smoother.
Freesync(AMD) and Gsync(Nvidia) are both Async technologies and basically do the same thing. The biggest difference is that Freesync is (as the name implies) a free technology while a Gsync monitor can cost over £200 more than a similarly specced Freesync monitor.
 

I see now obviously I would of have picked the top one bc of GSync but is Gsync really necessary for it being so pricey?

 


It's up to you if you want Gsync or not. On higher resolutions it is a nice thing to have.
 

But is it worth it to have?
 


Gsync? not really. Freesync? yes.