Intel X9650 with 1050 TI 4GB/1060 3GB?

[khaled_82]

Intel X9650 with 1050 TI 4GB/1060 3GB?


My friend have an old PC and he wants to upgrade it.
he lacks the budget so he can only get a new GPU.

will a 1050 ti 4gb or a 1060 3gb fit in his current rig?
i know that the MB has only PCIE2 slots but it shouldn't be a big issue for those cards, right?


his rig:
System type: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Processor: Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 3.0GHz (no overclocking)
Motherboard: Asus P5Q-E
Ram: 8GB DDR2 800MHz
Video card: GTX 660 TI 3GB
Psu- Evga 500w
Resolution: 1920x1080

 

[drkatz42]

Consider the 1050(non-ti) to create less of a bottleneck with an 11 year old cpu.

 

[photonboy]

The PCIe bandwidth is fine, but there will be a big loss in performance due to a CPU bottleneck.

The GTX660Ti is also roughly 75% as fast as a GTX1050Ti so in any game with much CPU bottleneck the performance difference won't be that big.

(If the benefit in theory was 33% higher FPS assuming no CPU bottleneck that might shrink to NO BENEFIT at all with a bottleneck... in general I don't upgrade my graphics card until it's over 2x the performance not like 30%)

Personally I'd wait. In fact, the system (CPU etc) upgrade might give a bigger benefit than the graphics card upgrade (with no system changes) but games vary so much it's hard to give specifics.

 

[photonboy]

Also, graphics card prices are way too high still. 3GB VRAM is on the border of being insufficient for many newer games, and GTX1050Ti isn't big enough upgrade.

IMO I would not bother upgrading until:

a) can afford to build complete new PC, and
b) can also afford GTX1060 6GB or better graphics card

Hey, maybe that's just stupid advice.

But look, SKYRIM hits a CPU bottleneck at 1200p even with an i7-3960X @4.2GHz (which by my calculation using PASSMARK is 80% faster per core than a stock Q9650)

Notice how the lower res cards get grouped together due to this CPU bottleneck, but at a higher resolution the CPU bottleneck is less (or absent):
https://www.anandtech.com/show/6159/the-geforce-gtx-660-ti-review/14

 

[gingerrankin]

I recommend the GTX 1050 ti. This CPU can handle this GPI. GTX 1060 surely is too powerful.

I also recommend a little O.C. for your CPU. Not much, just enough to take advantage of your RAM that actually is wasted.
With FSB Frequency = 400 you get 3.6GHz and your RAM is still not O.C.

This mobo and CPU can raise more, but I'm not an OC specialist for socket 775. In a similar RIG I raised this OC without effort, without touching any voltage.

If in doubt, put a question in the OC forum .

 

[zyh1987]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from khaled_82 : "Gigabyte AORUS XTREME GTX 1060 6G REV 2.0 or MSI GTX 1060 GAMING X 6G"

Which Graphic card is better and what's difference between

Gigabyte AORUS XTREME GTX 1060 6G REV 2.0
MSI GTX 1060 GAMING X 6G

performance wise, gigabyte is better.
overall, i think i would prefer the msi card, it has decent cooling, the extra speed in gigabyte card are likely to give you a 5% increase in fps which is 3 fps in 60fps, 6 ps in 120fps.

but msi is cheaper, In canada, the cards are $50cad or $40usd a part.

 

[4745454b]

MERGED QUESTION
Question from khaled_82 : "Who's better GT 1030 2GB or GTX 650 1GB ?"

Who's better GT 1030 2GB or GTX 650 1GB ?

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

Definitely the GT 1030, by quite a bit.

For Gaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JMBf8x2R8A
1030 GT by around 5-20% depending on the title and VRAM needed, 1GB cards really struggle now. A used 750 TI is still better than booth and costs about the same as a New 1030 Gt.

 

[zyh1987]

i would suggest to put a oc as high as possible.

I did an experiment 1 yr ago with a q9550, the fps gain vs clock speed is almost linear.

1050ti should be okay, i used a rx580 and just for fun tried a 1080ti. Gpu usage is less than 20% and cpu usage is always in the high 90s. In terms of gpu, 1050ti should be fine. You be surprised that it can handle some modern aaa title at min settings with 60 ish fps. Let me tell you I can achieve almost 60 fps in pubg 1080p very low and high aa.

Good luck.