Intel Xeon E5-1650 V3(2) vs 5930k

[PlaybunniPC]

Alright guys, so I'm at the point where I can't decide whether to blow the extra money on a dual xeon setup. I'm just wondering if I should go with a single 5930k or some other processor. Feel free to express your opinion here, don't start a flame war without me 😉
Mostly using it for gaming, multitasking editing and rendering.
Xeon: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80644e51650v3
i7: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80648i75930k
Thanks in advance
-Playbunni

 

[MystoPigz]

I would go for the i7 5930K. At stock speeds, this CPU is about the same as the Xeon. But, you can overclock it to higher speeds, unlike the Xeon. Go for the i7.

 

[PlaybunniPC]

I would go for the i7 5930K. At stock speeds, this CPU is about the same as the Xeon. But, you can overclock it to higher speeds, unlike the Xeon. Go for the i7.

Not sure if you missed it, or just ignored it. In the original post "Alright guys, so I'm at the point where I can't decide whether to blow the extra money on aDUAL XEON setup."

 

[MystoPigz]

I would go for the i7 5930K. At stock speeds, this CPU is about the same as the Xeon. But, you can overclock it to higher speeds, unlike the Xeon. Go for the i7.

Not sure if you missed it, or just ignored it. In the original post "Alright guys, so I'm at the point where I can't decide whether to blow the extra money on aDUAL XEON setup."

Sorry. Dual Xeon CPUs are mainly for running servers. You will save a lot of money and get great performance with just the i7 5930K.

 

[IntelTurtleFan]

I had this debate and came to the conclusion that you should get the 5930k.

 

[cdabc123]

i would go with the duel xeon they will be about the same for gaming but the 12 cores will kill the i7 in just about everything else. only go with the i7 if you plan on overclocking and only using it for games. i run a duel xeon setup on my computer right now. and those are not mainly for servers most are used in workstations.

 

[PlaybunniPC]

I would go for the i7 5930K. At stock speeds, this CPU is about the same as the Xeon. But, you can overclock it to higher speeds, unlike the Xeon. Go for the i7.

Not sure if you missed it, or just ignored it. In the original post "Alright guys, so I'm at the point where I can't decide whether to blow the extra money on aDUAL XEON setup."

Sorry. Dual Xeon CPUs are mainly for running servers. You will save a lot of money and get great performance with just the i7 5930K.

Xeon's have ECC memory support though, if that doesn't make it worth it then should I get a 5960x?.

 

[PlaybunniPC]

i would go with the duel xeon they will be about the same for gaming but the 12 cores will kill the i7 in just about everything else. only go with the i7 if you plan on overclocking and only useing it for games.

That is honestly what I've seen, and what I'm thinking.

 

[IntelTurtleFan]

It is extremely pointless to game on a dual socket setup. It may even reduce game performance from what I have seen. Also the 1650v3 only works in single socket mode.

 

[cdabc123]

i run xeons and the only down side for me is a slow boot with the ecc memory but with most motherboards you can disable that if you want.

 

[PlaybunniPC]

It is extremely pointless to game on a dual socket setup. It may even reduce game performance from what I have seen. Also the 1650v3 only works in single socket mode.

Please, read the OP. ""Mostly using it for gaming, multitasking editing and rendering.

 

[PlaybunniPC]

i run xeons and the only down side for me is a slow boot with the ecc memory but with most motherboards you can disable that if you want.

Sweet.

 

[IntelTurtleFan]

There is no way he should get the dual xeons or even one xeon unless ecc ram is 100% needed. Dual Xeons are not even supported with that chip.

 

[cdabc123]

you will need to get possessors like the E5-2623V3 though the other one dosnt support duel socket

 

[PlaybunniPC]

you will need to get possessors like the E5-2623V3 though the other one dosnt support duel socket

I see clearly now.

 

[cdabc123]

if you wanted to you could use the xeon Everest chips(X5698) for socket 1366. they run at 4.4ghz but will cost around a grand each

 

[PlaybunniPC]

if you wanted to you could use the xeon Everest chips(X5698) for socket 1366. they run at 4.4ghz but will cost around a grand each

Somewhat want to have a cap of 1300 for CPU's
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80644e52630v3?

 

[cdabc123]

yea, do you want to use the latest 2011-v3 socket? some other sockets might have a better variety of chips

 

[cdabc123]

that chip you had is a bit slow for your use. a high clocked 4-6 core chip should work better

 

[PlaybunniPC]

that chip you had is a bit slow for your use. a high clocked 4-6 core chip should work better

Looking for one.
I see no 6/8 cores part of the 2600 series higher than 2.4ghz.
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-cm8063501288100
Highest I could find on PCpp

 

[cdabc123]

if you use socket 1366 you could use 3.3ghz 6 cores

 

[PlaybunniPC]

Hm.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004O0CXAW/ref=psdc_229189_t3_B004EET1LM
That what you were talking about?

 

[Juliask]

All depends on the application. I'm running i7-5930K at home and have an identical setup at work only with E5-1650v3 for the CPU. I do heavy processing, GI rendering, fluid simulation. i7 will sometimes crap out and hang when doing non-stop calculations for 4-6 hours. That is with no overclocking and a decent liquid cooling heatsink. CPU never goes over 50 degrees Celsius. We tried going for i7's at work to save a few bucks but discovered it was a hit and miss scenario. They are a bit faster and cheaper, but less stable with performance varying from box to box. Out of 8 i7's that we tried, 4 would freeze occasionally (once every few days) and 4 ran as well as Xeons. With time i7's we used in the past also suffered a higher failure rate, but we're talking serious cluster processing with CPU's chugging at 100% non-stop for months. Meanwhile, haven't lost a single Xeon ever.

 

[cdabc123]

All depends on the application. I'm running i7-5930K at home and have an identical setup at work only with E5-1650v3 for the CPU. I do heavy processing, GI rendering, fluid simulation. i7 will sometimes crap out and hang when doing non-stop calculations for 4-6 hours. That is with no overclocking and a decent liquid cooling heatsink. CPU never goes over 50 degrees Celsius. We tried going for i7's at work to save a few bucks but discovered it was a hit and miss scenario. They are a bit faster and cheaper, but less stable with performance varying from box to box. Out of 8 i7's that we tried, 4 would freeze occasionally (once every few days) and 4 ran as well as Xeons. With time i7's we used in the past also suffered a higher failure rate, but we're talking serious cluster processing with CPU's chugging at 100% non-stop for months. Meanwhile, haven't lost a single Xeon ever.

yep xeons last FOREVER i have had 2 servers running them going for 15 years and they are both still going

 

[Virtual_Singularity]

All depends on the application. I'm running i7-5930K at home and have an identical setup at work only with E5-1650v3 for the CPU. I do heavy processing, GI rendering, fluid simulation. i7 will sometimes crap out and hang when doing non-stop calculations for 4-6 hours. That is with no overclocking and a decent liquid cooling heatsink. CPU never goes over 50 degrees Celsius. We tried going for i7's at work to save a few bucks but discovered it was a hit and miss scenario. They are a bit faster and cheaper, but less stable with performance varying from box to box. Out of 8 i7's that we tried, 4 would freeze occasionally (once every few days) and 4 ran as well as Xeons. With time i7's we used in the past also suffered a higher failure rate, but we're talking serious cluster processing with CPU's chugging at 100% non-stop for months. Meanwhile, haven't lost a single Xeon ever.

yep xeons last FOREVER i have had 2 servers running them going for 15 years and they are both still going

Totally agree with your xeons last forever remark, and great sig! In a review I did on the e5 1650 v3 some time ago, I wrote it may indeed potentially outlive it's owners, lol. The 1600 v3 series are kind of special in that, from what I understand, they can be OC'd. On reddit and elsewhere, there are claims these single socket xeons were the last to be unlocked, and there are some benchmarks for the 1650 to back these claims up. Though, I'm unsure if "unlocked" would be the correct term to use. I've toyed around with the idea of oc'ing mine, but haven't had a need to thus far.

All in all, it's not unreasonable for someone leaning toward a 5930k intending to OC, to consider the similarily priced xeon 1650 v3. It's soldered, unlike those thermally deficient out of the box "high end" or mainstream chips Intel uses that cheap TIM on, which has driven so many to de-lid. Or to consider the overall higher standards xeons are made with in general, the host of features they offer, also unlike their mainstream cousins. Ultimately, oc'ing a xeon no doubt seems foolhardy to most, rightfully so. However, speaking practically, the small difference in price between the 5930k and 1650 v3 makes the latter an easy choice regardless of whether one intends to oc or not, imho.