Intell Optane with SSD???

[Lee_52]

I'm planning to buy Intel Optane, do i still need to buy an SSD or just buy HDD, can intel optane boost my SSD?

 

[Kasper Jorgensen]

Just buy a SSD and forget about Optane. Optane is only good for boosting performance on a HDD, but you are better of just to get a SSD.
A SSD will be fast on all your data, the Optane+HDD will only be fast if the data you need is in the Optane cache.

 

[Pakadermia]

the point of Optane is to pair it up with a HDD. Its basically a cache. buying Optane with an SSD would be pretty pointless however I've yet to see anyone publish any results on what would happen.

 

[francis.thompson]

Just buy a SSD and forget about Optane. Optane is only good for boosting performance on a HDD, but you are better of just to get a SSD.
A SSD will be fast on all your data, the Optane+HDD will only be fast if the data you need is in the Optane cache.

I put an Optane 32GB M.2 in my MSI motherboard and use a 1TB SSD and it is much faster than it was without the Optane. My computer windows 10 64bit, would boot in about 10sec without the Optane and boots in about 3 sec with it. This is not very scientific as I used my watch to measure, but I get consistently the same results. When I have multiple windows open and switching between windows, it seems instantaneous where before the Optane, it was a second or two between window switching (different apps). I do not have a HDD on my machine.

 

[Kasper Jorgensen]

Just buy a SSD and forget about Optane. Optane is only good for boosting performance on a HDD, but you are better of just to get a SSD.
A SSD will be fast on all your data, the Optane+HDD will only be fast if the data you need is in the Optane cache.

I put an Optane 32GB M.2 in my MSI motherboard and use a 1TB SSD and it is much faster than it was without the Optane. My computer windows 10 64bit, would boot in about 10sec without the Optane and boots in about 3 sec with it. This is not very scientific as I used my watch to measure, but I get consistently the same results. When I have multiple windows open and switching between windows, it seems instantaneous where before the Optane, it was a second or two between window switching (different apps). I do not have a HDD on my machine.

I will not agree or disagree with you on this. However, Optane is essentially nothing but a SSD, so basically you put a SSD in front of your SSD to boost it, that would only help if your SSD is a slower model. The main reason you experiencing faster boot time, is because you put a M.2 Optane in front of a Sata drive, they keyword here being M.2. Replace your sata SSD with a M.2 SSD and Optane will do nothing for you.

 

[francis.thompson]

Just buy a SSD and forget about Optane. Optane is only good for boosting performance on a HDD, but you are better of just to get a SSD.
A SSD will be fast on all your data, the Optane+HDD will only be fast if the data you need is in the Optane cache.

I put an Optane 32GB M.2 in my MSI motherboard and use a 1TB SSD and it is much faster than it was without the Optane. My computer windows 10 64bit, would boot in about 10sec without the Optane and boots in about 3 sec with it. This is not very scientific as I used my watch to measure, but I get consistently the same results. When I have multiple windows open and switching between windows, it seems instantaneous where before the Optane, it was a second or two between window switching (different apps). I do not have a HDD on my machine.

I will not agree or disagree with you on this. However, Optane is essentially nothing but a SSD, so basically you put a SSD in front of your SSD to boost it, that would only help if your SSD is a slower model. The main reason you experiencing faster boot time, is because you put a M.2 Optane in front of a Sata drive, they keyword here being M.2. Replace your sata SSD with a M.2 SSD and Optane will do nothing for you.

However, it is about 1000X faster than an SSD in writing and reading. it is totally different technology than an SSD. SSDs are based on transistor technology, and Optane is based on resistance.

 

[Pakadermia]

Just buy a SSD and forget about Optane. Optane is only good for boosting performance on a HDD, but you are better of just to get a SSD.
A SSD will be fast on all your data, the Optane+HDD will only be fast if the data you need is in the Optane cache.

I put an Optane 32GB M.2 in my MSI motherboard and use a 1TB SSD and it is much faster than it was without the Optane. My computer windows 10 64bit, would boot in about 10sec without the Optane and boots in about 3 sec with it. This is not very scientific as I used my watch to measure, but I get consistently the same results. When I have multiple windows open and switching between windows, it seems instantaneous where before the Optane, it was a second or two between window switching (different apps). I do not have a HDD on my machine.

I will not agree or disagree with you on this. However, Optane is essentially nothing but a SSD, so basically you put a SSD in front of your SSD to boost it, that would only help if your SSD is a slower model. The main reason you experiencing faster boot time, is because you put a M.2 Optane in front of a Sata drive, they keyword here being M.2. Replace your sata SSD with a M.2 SSD and Optane will do nothing for you.

However, it is about 1000X faster than an SSD in writing and reading. it is totally different technology than an SSD. SSDs are based on transistor technology, and Optane is based on resistance.

Ok one, Optane is not 1000x faster than any normal SSD made in the past 10 years. Two, Optane by definition is an SSD. Three, SSDs are not made from stacking transistors. Four, Optane is based on resistance??? what? Optane is a solid state cache for slower storage mediums like hard drives. Its an in between experience that allows you to use a hard drive but get SSD like read speeds for frequently used files.

 

[USAFRet]

However, it is about 1000X faster than an SSD in writing and reading. it is totally different technology than an SSD. SSDs are based on transistor technology, and Optane is based on resistance.

"1000x faster" ?
You're going to have to show some numbers, because no...it isn't.

transistor...resistance?
That statement makes no sense.

 

[USAFRet]

I'm planning to buy Intel Optane, do i still need to buy an SSD or just buy HDD, can intel optane boost my SSD?

Just get an SSD. SATA or NVMe.

It is faster across the whole drive, rather than a very small cache portion.

Optane is not ready for prime time yet. Price v size, the need for specific compatible motherboard, setup complexity...

Optane is where SSD's were 6 or 7 years ago.
Tiny and expensive. It is not a magical speedup for all your consumer storage needs.

Unlike the user perceived speed difference between HDD and SSD, the user difference between SSD and Optane is not nearly as great.
We are getting into the place of diminishing returns.

The next real speed bump will either be a large enough Optane thing to be a full drive (200+GB), or DRAM large enough for everything. And of course the software to know what to do with it.
All this caching gunk is just a waste.

 

[francis.thompson]

Just buy a SSD and forget about Optane. Optane is only good for boosting performance on a HDD, but you are better of just to get a SSD.
A SSD will be fast on all your data, the Optane+HDD will only be fast if the data you need is in the Optane cache.

I put an Optane 32GB M.2 in my MSI motherboard and use a 1TB SSD and it is much faster than it was without the Optane. My computer windows 10 64bit, would boot in about 10sec without the Optane and boots in about 3 sec with it. This is not very scientific as I used my watch to measure, but I get consistently the same results. When I have multiple windows open and switching between windows, it seems instantaneous where before the Optane, it was a second or two between window switching (different apps). I do not have a HDD on my machine.

I will not agree or disagree with you on this. However, Optane is essentially nothing but a SSD, so basically you put a SSD in front of your SSD to boost it, that would only help if your SSD is a slower model. The main reason you experiencing faster boot time, is because you put a M.2 Optane in front of a Sata drive, they keyword here being M.2. Replace your sata SSD with a M.2 SSD and Optane will do nothing for you.

However, it is about 1000X faster than an SSD in writing and reading. it is totally different technology than an SSD. SSDs are based on transistor technology, and Optane is based on resistance.

Ok one, Optane is not 1000x faster than any normal SSD made in the past 10 years. Two, Optane by definition is an SSD. Three, SSDs are not made from stacking transistors. Four, Optane is based on resistance??? what? Optane is a solid state cache for slower storage mediums like hard drives. Its an in between experience that allows you to use a hard drive but get SSD like read speeds for frequently used files.

Optane is mem-resistor technology. Recommend you read papers on this type of memory. It will revolutionize the computer industry, in that all memory will shortly be one large persistent memory - ROM, RAM, Cache, and storage will be one. All ready we have prototypes where the mem-resistor is replacing the RAM and ROM. It is nearly as fast as the existing RAM memory on motherboards. The Intel processors have 48 PCIe lanes direct into the processor so that the mem-resistor can send data directly into the processor. In addition mem-resistors can be multi-state. That means they can do processing within the memory its self. This will in the next few years revolutionize the processor to where it may be come a controller and the processing will be done in memory.

 

[Kasper Jorgensen]

Just buy a SSD and forget about Optane. Optane is only good for boosting performance on a HDD, but you are better of just to get a SSD.
A SSD will be fast on all your data, the Optane+HDD will only be fast if the data you need is in the Optane cache.

I put an Optane 32GB M.2 in my MSI motherboard and use a 1TB SSD and it is much faster than it was without the Optane. My computer windows 10 64bit, would boot in about 10sec without the Optane and boots in about 3 sec with it. This is not very scientific as I used my watch to measure, but I get consistently the same results. When I have multiple windows open and switching between windows, it seems instantaneous where before the Optane, it was a second or two between window switching (different apps). I do not have a HDD on my machine.

I will not agree or disagree with you on this. However, Optane is essentially nothing but a SSD, so basically you put a SSD in front of your SSD to boost it, that would only help if your SSD is a slower model. The main reason you experiencing faster boot time, is because you put a M.2 Optane in front of a Sata drive, they keyword here being M.2. Replace your sata SSD with a M.2 SSD and Optane will do nothing for you.

However, it is about 1000X faster than an SSD in writing and reading. it is totally different technology than an SSD. SSDs are based on transistor technology, and Optane is based on resistance.

Ok one, Optane is not 1000x faster than any normal SSD made in the past 10 years. Two, Optane by definition is an SSD. Three, SSDs are not made from stacking transistors. Four, Optane is based on resistance??? what? Optane is a solid state cache for slower storage mediums like hard drives. Its an in between experience that allows you to use a hard drive but get SSD like read speeds for frequently used files.

Optane is mem-resistor technology. Recommend you read papers on this type of memory. It will revolutionize the computer industry, in that all memory will shortly be one large persistent memory - ROM, RAM, Cache, and storage will be one. All ready we have prototypes where the mem-resistor is replacing the RAM and ROM. It is nearly as fast as the existing RAM memory on motherboards. The Intel processors have 48 PCIe lanes direct into the processor so that the mem-resistor can send data directly into the processor. In addition mem-resistors can be multi-state. That means they can do processing within the memory its self. This will in the next few years revolutionize the processor to where it may be come a controller and the processing will be done in memory.

This is just *.

48 PCIe lanes? I suggest you go read motherboard specs and tell me again how many PCIe lanes are reserved for M.2 slots. After all, Optane is installed in a M.2 slot.
Going to revolutionize in the next few years? LOL
I suggest you go find a better source of information or maybe just do some reading, because you clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

Let me quote from Intel them self
"Intel® Optane™ memory is a smart, adaptable system accelerator for PCs with a 7th Gen Intel® Core™ processor and a hard disk drive."
Keyword here being a hard disk drive and not a SSD.

 

[USAFRet]

People...lets keep it civil, and the language at a family friendly level.
OK?

 

[samer.forums]

If you want best performance , Just get NVME SSD . dont waste on optane.

If you want to get a SATA SSD , make sure you get one with high IOPS , many cheap 2.5 inch SSD have low IOPS so be careful when you pick up SATA SSD. They put the Sequential read/write speed , and hide the IOPS if it is not good.

 

[francis.thompson]

Just buy a SSD and forget about Optane. Optane is only good for boosting performance on a HDD, but you are better of just to get a SSD.
A SSD will be fast on all your data, the Optane+HDD will only be fast if the data you need is in the Optane cache.

I put an Optane 32GB M.2 in my MSI motherboard and use a 1TB SSD and it is much faster than it was without the Optane. My computer windows 10 64bit, would boot in about 10sec without the Optane and boots in about 3 sec with it. This is not very scientific as I used my watch to measure, but I get consistently the same results. When I have multiple windows open and switching between windows, it seems instantaneous where before the Optane, it was a second or two between window switching (different apps). I do not have a HDD on my machine.

I will not agree or disagree with you on this. However, Optane is essentially nothing but a SSD, so basically you put a SSD in front of your SSD to boost it, that would only help if your SSD is a slower model. The main reason you experiencing faster boot time, is because you put a M.2 Optane in front of a Sata drive, they keyword here being M.2. Replace your sata SSD with a M.2 SSD and Optane will do nothing for you.

However, it is about 1000X faster than an SSD in writing and reading. it is totally different technology than an SSD. SSDs are based on transistor technology, and Optane is based on resistance.

Ok one, Optane is not 1000x faster than any normal SSD made in the past 10 years. Two, Optane by definition is an SSD. Three, SSDs are not made from stacking transistors. Four, Optane is based on resistance??? what? Optane is a solid state cache for slower storage mediums like hard drives. Its an in between experience that allows you to use a hard drive but get SSD like read speeds for frequently used files.

Optane is mem-resistor technology. Recommend you read papers on this type of memory. It will revolutionize the computer industry, in that all memory will shortly be one large persistent memory - ROM, RAM, Cache, and storage will be one. All ready we have prototypes where the mem-resistor is replacing the RAM and ROM. It is nearly as fast as the existing RAM memory on motherboards. The Intel processors have 48 PCIe lanes direct into the processor so that the mem-resistor can send data directly into the processor. In addition mem-resistors can be multi-state. That means they can do processing within the memory its self. This will in the next few years revolutionize the processor to where it may be come a controller and the processing will be done in memory.

This is just *.

48 PCIe lanes? I suggest you go read motherboard specs and tell me again how many PCIe lanes are reserved for M.2 slots. After all, Optane is installed in a M.2 slot.
Going to revolutionize in the next few years? LOL
I suggest you go find a better source of information or maybe just do some reading, because you clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

Let me quote from Intel them self
"Intel® Optane™ memory is a smart, adaptable system accelerator for PCs with a 7th Gen Intel® Core™ processor and a hard disk drive."
Keyword here being a hard disk drive and not a SSD.

I have it running in our lab.

 

[Kasper Jorgensen]

Just buy a SSD and forget about Optane. Optane is only good for boosting performance on a HDD, but you are better of just to get a SSD.
A SSD will be fast on all your data, the Optane+HDD will only be fast if the data you need is in the Optane cache.

I put an Optane 32GB M.2 in my MSI motherboard and use a 1TB SSD and it is much faster than it was without the Optane. My computer windows 10 64bit, would boot in about 10sec without the Optane and boots in about 3 sec with it. This is not very scientific as I used my watch to measure, but I get consistently the same results. When I have multiple windows open and switching between windows, it seems instantaneous where before the Optane, it was a second or two between window switching (different apps). I do not have a HDD on my machine.

I will not agree or disagree with you on this. However, Optane is essentially nothing but a SSD, so basically you put a SSD in front of your SSD to boost it, that would only help if your SSD is a slower model. The main reason you experiencing faster boot time, is because you put a M.2 Optane in front of a Sata drive, they keyword here being M.2. Replace your sata SSD with a M.2 SSD and Optane will do nothing for you.

However, it is about 1000X faster than an SSD in writing and reading. it is totally different technology than an SSD. SSDs are based on transistor technology, and Optane is based on resistance.

Ok one, Optane is not 1000x faster than any normal SSD made in the past 10 years. Two, Optane by definition is an SSD. Three, SSDs are not made from stacking transistors. Four, Optane is based on resistance??? what? Optane is a solid state cache for slower storage mediums like hard drives. Its an in between experience that allows you to use a hard drive but get SSD like read speeds for frequently used files.

Optane is mem-resistor technology. Recommend you read papers on this type of memory. It will revolutionize the computer industry, in that all memory will shortly be one large persistent memory - ROM, RAM, Cache, and storage will be one. All ready we have prototypes where the mem-resistor is replacing the RAM and ROM. It is nearly as fast as the existing RAM memory on motherboards. The Intel processors have 48 PCIe lanes direct into the processor so that the mem-resistor can send data directly into the processor. In addition mem-resistors can be multi-state. That means they can do processing within the memory its self. This will in the next few years revolutionize the processor to where it may be come a controller and the processing will be done in memory.

This is just *.

48 PCIe lanes? I suggest you go read motherboard specs and tell me again how many PCIe lanes are reserved for M.2 slots. After all, Optane is installed in a M.2 slot.
Going to revolutionize in the next few years? LOL
I suggest you go find a better source of information or maybe just do some reading, because you clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

Let me quote from Intel them self
"Intel® Optane™ memory is a smart, adaptable system accelerator for PCs with a 7th Gen Intel® Core™ processor and a hard disk drive."
Keyword here being a hard disk drive and not a SSD.

I have it running in our lab.

Just because you have it running in your lab, doesn't make you right.

 

[USAFRet]

I have it running in our lab.

Married to what drive type, and for what usage?

Can it be 'faster'? Sure.
Is it 'faster enough' (vs an NVMe drive), across the board, to warrant the extra cost?

Every time there is a NewShiny, far too many people instantly jump to it as the solution to all their issues.

HDD was a HUGE jump over floppies. And initially stupidly expensive.
SSD was a HUGE jump over HDD. But only recently have they become cheap enough for mass use.
NVMe is a smaller, but still measurable, jump over SATA SSD. And still more expensive per GB.
Optane? Again, far more expensive per GB than the previous NVMe. And is it enough of a boost, in actual user experience, to warrant that cost?

For me, not even close.
Just as with all drive types, eventually the price per GB will come down to rational levels.

And the seminal question that was never asked in here....what is the OP planning to use this for?
Why Optane? Because he read it was "fast"?
For some uses, sure. A system with some Optane in there is great.
But probably not for a general use PC.

Just my $0.02.

 

[francis.thompson]

Just buy a SSD and forget about Optane. Optane is only good for boosting performance on a HDD, but you are better of just to get a SSD.
A SSD will be fast on all your data, the Optane+HDD will only be fast if the data you need is in the Optane cache.

I put an Optane 32GB M.2 in my MSI motherboard and use a 1TB SSD and it is much faster than it was without the Optane. My computer windows 10 64bit, would boot in about 10sec without the Optane and boots in about 3 sec with it. This is not very scientific as I used my watch to measure, but I get consistently the same results. When I have multiple windows open and switching between windows, it seems instantaneous where before the Optane, it was a second or two between window switching (different apps). I do not have a HDD on my machine.

I will not agree or disagree with you on this. However, Optane is essentially nothing but a SSD, so basically you put a SSD in front of your SSD to boost it, that would only help if your SSD is a slower model. The main reason you experiencing faster boot time, is because you put a M.2 Optane in front of a Sata drive, they keyword here being M.2. Replace your sata SSD with a M.2 SSD and Optane will do nothing for you.

However, it is about 1000X faster than an SSD in writing and reading. it is totally different technology than an SSD. SSDs are based on transistor technology, and Optane is based on resistance.

Ok one, Optane is not 1000x faster than any normal SSD made in the past 10 years. Two, Optane by definition is an SSD. Three, SSDs are not made from stacking transistors. Four, Optane is based on resistance??? what? Optane is a solid state cache for slower storage mediums like hard drives. Its an in between experience that allows you to use a hard drive but get SSD like read speeds for frequently used files.

Optane is mem-resistor technology. Recommend you read papers on this type of memory. It will revolutionize the computer industry, in that all memory will shortly be one large persistent memory - ROM, RAM, Cache, and storage will be one. All ready we have prototypes where the mem-resistor is replacing the RAM and ROM. It is nearly as fast as the existing RAM memory on motherboards. The Intel processors have 48 PCIe lanes direct into the processor so that the mem-resistor can send data directly into the processor. In addition mem-resistors can be multi-state. That means they can do processing within the memory its self. This will in the next few years revolutionize the processor to where it may be come a controller and the processing will be done in memory.

This is just *.

48 PCIe lanes? I suggest you go read motherboard specs and tell me again how many PCIe lanes are reserved for M.2 slots. After all, Optane is installed in a M.2 slot.
Going to revolutionize in the next few years? LOL
I suggest you go find a better source of information or maybe just do some reading, because you clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

Let me quote from Intel them self
"Intel® Optane™ memory is a smart, adaptable system accelerator for PCs with a 7th Gen Intel® Core™ processor and a hard disk drive."
Keyword here being a hard disk drive and not a SSD.

I have it running in our lab.

Just because you have it running in your lab, doesn't make you right.

Yes it does. Proof is in the running commercial off the shelf hardware.

 

[Kasper Jorgensen]

Just buy a SSD and forget about Optane. Optane is only good for boosting performance on a HDD, but you are better of just to get a SSD.
A SSD will be fast on all your data, the Optane+HDD will only be fast if the data you need is in the Optane cache.

I put an Optane 32GB M.2 in my MSI motherboard and use a 1TB SSD and it is much faster than it was without the Optane. My computer windows 10 64bit, would boot in about 10sec without the Optane and boots in about 3 sec with it. This is not very scientific as I used my watch to measure, but I get consistently the same results. When I have multiple windows open and switching between windows, it seems instantaneous where before the Optane, it was a second or two between window switching (different apps). I do not have a HDD on my machine.

I will not agree or disagree with you on this. However, Optane is essentially nothing but a SSD, so basically you put a SSD in front of your SSD to boost it, that would only help if your SSD is a slower model. The main reason you experiencing faster boot time, is because you put a M.2 Optane in front of a Sata drive, they keyword here being M.2. Replace your sata SSD with a M.2 SSD and Optane will do nothing for you.

However, it is about 1000X faster than an SSD in writing and reading. it is totally different technology than an SSD. SSDs are based on transistor technology, and Optane is based on resistance.

Ok one, Optane is not 1000x faster than any normal SSD made in the past 10 years. Two, Optane by definition is an SSD. Three, SSDs are not made from stacking transistors. Four, Optane is based on resistance??? what? Optane is a solid state cache for slower storage mediums like hard drives. Its an in between experience that allows you to use a hard drive but get SSD like read speeds for frequently used files.

Optane is mem-resistor technology. Recommend you read papers on this type of memory. It will revolutionize the computer industry, in that all memory will shortly be one large persistent memory - ROM, RAM, Cache, and storage will be one. All ready we have prototypes where the mem-resistor is replacing the RAM and ROM. It is nearly as fast as the existing RAM memory on motherboards. The Intel processors have 48 PCIe lanes direct into the processor so that the mem-resistor can send data directly into the processor. In addition mem-resistors can be multi-state. That means they can do processing within the memory its self. This will in the next few years revolutionize the processor to where it may be come a controller and the processing will be done in memory.

This is just *.

48 PCIe lanes? I suggest you go read motherboard specs and tell me again how many PCIe lanes are reserved for M.2 slots. After all, Optane is installed in a M.2 slot.
Going to revolutionize in the next few years? LOL
I suggest you go find a better source of information or maybe just do some reading, because you clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

Let me quote from Intel them self
"Intel® Optane™ memory is a smart, adaptable system accelerator for PCs with a 7th Gen Intel® Core™ processor and a hard disk drive."
Keyword here being a hard disk drive and not a SSD.

I have it running in our lab.

Just because you have it running in your lab, doesn't make you right.

Yes it does. Proof is in the running commercial off the shelf hardware.

Doesn't prove anything to me. All I got is your word, which i don't believe. Please post some links and benchmarks to back up your claims

 

[francis.thompson]

Just buy a SSD and forget about Optane. Optane is only good for boosting performance on a HDD, but you are better of just to get a SSD.
A SSD will be fast on all your data, the Optane+HDD will only be fast if the data you need is in the Optane cache.

I put an Optane 32GB M.2 in my MSI motherboard and use a 1TB SSD and it is much faster than it was without the Optane. My computer windows 10 64bit, would boot in about 10sec without the Optane and boots in about 3 sec with it. This is not very scientific as I used my watch to measure, but I get consistently the same results. When I have multiple windows open and switching between windows, it seems instantaneous where before the Optane, it was a second or two between window switching (different apps). I do not have a HDD on my machine.

I will not agree or disagree with you on this. However, Optane is essentially nothing but a SSD, so basically you put a SSD in front of your SSD to boost it, that would only help if your SSD is a slower model. The main reason you experiencing faster boot time, is because you put a M.2 Optane in front of a Sata drive, they keyword here being M.2. Replace your sata SSD with a M.2 SSD and Optane will do nothing for you.

However, it is about 1000X faster than an SSD in writing and reading. it is totally different technology than an SSD. SSDs are based on transistor technology, and Optane is based on resistance.

Ok one, Optane is not 1000x faster than any normal SSD made in the past 10 years. Two, Optane by definition is an SSD. Three, SSDs are not made from stacking transistors. Four, Optane is based on resistance??? what? Optane is a solid state cache for slower storage mediums like hard drives. Its an in between experience that allows you to use a hard drive but get SSD like read speeds for frequently used files.

Optane is mem-resistor technology. Recommend you read papers on this type of memory. It will revolutionize the computer industry, in that all memory will shortly be one large persistent memory - ROM, RAM, Cache, and storage will be one. All ready we have prototypes where the mem-resistor is replacing the RAM and ROM. It is nearly as fast as the existing RAM memory on motherboards. The Intel processors have 48 PCIe lanes direct into the processor so that the mem-resistor can send data directly into the processor. In addition mem-resistors can be multi-state. That means they can do processing within the memory its self. This will in the next few years revolutionize the processor to where it may be come a controller and the processing will be done in memory.

This is just *.

48 PCIe lanes? I suggest you go read motherboard specs and tell me again how many PCIe lanes are reserved for M.2 slots. After all, Optane is installed in a M.2 slot.
Going to revolutionize in the next few years? LOL
I suggest you go find a better source of information or maybe just do some reading, because you clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

Let me quote from Intel them self
"Intel® Optane™ memory is a smart, adaptable system accelerator for PCs with a 7th Gen Intel® Core™ processor and a hard disk drive."
Keyword here being a hard disk drive and not a SSD.

I have it running in our lab.

Just because you have it running in your lab, doesn't make you right.

Yes it does. Proof is in the running commercial off the shelf hardware.

Doesn't prove anything to me. All I got is your word, which i don't believe. Please post some links and benchmarks to back up your claims

Not going to post any metrics or performance. I love your last comment. Means we are way out in front, and want to keep it that way.

 

[USAFRet]

"way out in front"...of what?

 

[Kasper Jorgensen]

Not going to post any metrics or performance. I love your last comment. Means we are way out in front, and want to keep it that way.

There you go, you cannot prove anything.
Even Intel them self only claims a performance boost of 10-30% depending on the usage. Far from your 1000x faster.

 

[Saga Lout]

Let's cool this down please, people, and knock off the multiple quotes. My scrolling fnger just went numb just to read two lines at the bottom of the post.

It will also help if you stick to absolute evidence - opposing sides can't both be right.

If another Mod has to come in here, it will be to close the thread down. Thanks in anticipation of your co=operation.

 

[Rogue Leader]

Optane is mem-resistor technology. Recommend you read papers on this type of memory. It will revolutionize the computer industry, in that all memory will shortly be one large persistent memory - ROM, RAM, Cache, and storage will be one. All ready we have prototypes where the mem-resistor is replacing the RAM and ROM. It is nearly as fast as the existing RAM memory on motherboards. The Intel processors have 48 PCIe lanes direct into the processor so that the mem-resistor can send data directly into the processor. In addition mem-resistors can be multi-state. That means they can do processing within the memory its self. This will in the next few years revolutionize the processor to where it may be come a controller and the processing will be done in memory.

This is the largest pile of technobabble I have ever read on this site. Whatever papers you read that said this came from fantasy land.

Please provide a link I am dying to see where in the world this pile of manure came from. Every single word of this is as hilarious as it is massively incorrect.

 

[TechyInAZ]

Also people, if you could please bring your quotes down to a minimum. It's an absolute pain in the neck to scroll down a whole wall of quotes just to see what your trying to say.

 

[samer.forums]

Also people, if you could please bring your quotes down to a minimum. It's an absolute pain in the neck to scroll down a whole wall of quotes just to see what your trying to say.

Why not design the forum to make the quotes hidden with a button to show ? This way only the people who need to read the quote will open it ?

make only the LAST quote Visible and the rest hidden with "show" button.