News Intel's Arrow Lake-S rumored for December launch

[Admin]

Intel's Arrow Lake-S may show up later than expected, if a rumor is accurate, though it is more likely that we are talking about non-K SKUs.

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[Deleted member 2731765]

At this point, we do not know whether if 'Arrow Lake-S' means socketed Arrow Lake-S 125W processors with unlocked multiplier and 8P + 16E cores silicon configuration; socketed Arrow Lake-S in general (both 125W and 65W), which includes both 8P + 16E silicon as well as 6P + 8E silicon configurations; or Arrow Lake-S processors for mainstream desktops with a 8P + 16E or 6P + 8E die and a 65W processor base power.

That's odd. Why is there a confusion here ? "Arrow Lake-S" lineup includes all three segments of processors.

The entire "Arrow Lake-S" lineup in total includes 13 models, as per rumors, including the 125W "unlocked" K-Series, 65W "non-K" and 35W "T" SKUs.

Apart from three "K" series chips, the lineup will include 5 non-K chips rated at the 65W (PL1) TDP, and 5 chips featuring a TDP of 35W (PL1).

All of these are supposed to come under the "Arrow Lake-S" family of processors.

3 K chips.
5 non-K chips.
5 T chips.


And BTW, these new rumored dates are fake. Other sources especially those on AIB board channel partner forums have reiterated the fact that the launch is still scheduled for a late October, and/or an early September timeline (for the flagship 125W K parts).

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Hardware leaker @9550pro did not reveal their source, but indicated that a claim (made by Jaykihn on X, formerly Twitter) saying that Arrow Lake-S is set to reach its QS milestone only on the 40th week of 2024 (late September – early October) corroborates his information as it takes no less than three to four months to get from QS (quality samples) to start of actual product shipments (i.e., desktop PCs in this case).

What's even odd/funny is that the original poster himself believes the launch date has not been delayed. On the basis of which leaker "@9550pro" made this new prediction of his own.

What a contradiction !

https://twitter.com/x/status/1811407448193798155

View: https://x.com/jaykihn0/status/1811407448193798155

 

[TechyIT223]

Pretty sure these new rumours are just clickbait info.

I don't expect Tom's hardware to fall for this though.

 

[Notton]

Yeah, there is the perfect launch window that everyone aims for, Black Friday season.
The two months with the most sales volume are Nov/Dec, so you want your product out before that.
But you also don't want to release too early because you want to dominate the news cycle in Oct, which creates hype and name recognition.

IMO, if the product is launched outside of Oct, it's because there were delays. Hello X Elite, you should have been out in 2023 Oct, not 2024 June.
(This rule does not apply to mid to lower end products)

 

[Jaykihn0]

What's even odd/funny is that the original poster himself believes the launch date has not been delayed. On the basis of which leaker "@9550pro" made this new prediction of his own.

What a contradiction !

https://twitter.com/x/status/1811407448193798155

View: https://x.com/jaykihn0/status/1811407448193798155

Yeah, thanks for pointing that out.

It’s still late October, 100%. Not sure what HXL was talking about.

 

[thestryker]

That's odd. Why is there a confusion here ? "Arrow Lake-S" lineup includes all three segments of processors.

He's just referring to the leak itself not being specific rather than what constitutes ARL-S.

And BTW, these new rumored dates are fake. Other sources especially those on AIB board channel partner forums have reiterated the fact that the launch is still scheduled for a late October, and/or an early September timeline (for the flagship 125W K parts).

Yeah I haven't seen any sort of evidence to backup a delay.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

Whatever maybe the final launch date, I'm more interested in the 65W non-K chips this time.

Yeah, thanks for pointing that out.

It’s still late October, 100%. Not sure what HXL was talking about.

Well, HXL's tweet is based directly on what you tweeted few days ago in which you claimed that Arrow Lake-S lineup will reach "Quality sample QS" status or milestone only on the 40th week of 2024 (late September – early October).

So based on this prediction he now claims these chips will land up in December instead.

I presume HXL's Tweet is based on this info which you tweeted.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1810152234807627782

View: https://x.com/jaykihn0/status/1810152234807627782

 

[TechyIT223]

He's just referring to the leak itself not being specific rather than what constitutes ARL-S

Yeah, but the wording of the entire paragraph makes it sound as if the author 'Anton Shilov' is not fully sure what constitutes the actual Arrow Lake S lineup. LOL.

A bit confusing though when someone reads it.

But never mind that. Speaking of Arrow Lake the naming scheme is confusing. Lame. 🤪

AMD Ryzen mobile is already up to "AI 300" something, and Intel didn't even include AI anywhere in the name either.

The irony 😀. But a simple "i9 285K" model name would make more sense, IMO. Without the ULTRA monicker.

Then we can have i7 265k. i5 240.

But i9 290K, 280K, i7 270 sound more sensible.

Arrow Lake should also reuse the Arc GPU from the cheapest Meteor Lake, which by itself has a similar performance to the MSI Claw, so you can just check the MSI Claw at 35W to get an idea of what to expect here.

We have no information about what Intel will do for iGPUs after this year. Most likely reuse the same iGPUs for Lunar Lake successor and Arrow Lake refresh in 2025.

Then in 2026, Panther Lake will likely offer improved Battlemage graphics, or, go for Celestial.

 

[Amdlova]

Can't wait to see the new fiasco...
If intel don't work on 13900k 14900k 14700k fiasco. Why some one will build an intel again?
Only reason I don't build amd it's the asmedia chipset. Amd promontory bug devices...

 

[thestryker]

Arrow Lake should also reuse the Arc GPU from the cheapest Meteor Lake, which by itself has a similar performance to the MSI Claw, so you can just check the MSI Claw at 35W to get an idea of what to expect here.

I would love for Intel to make a desktop SKU with better integrated, but I doubt it'll happen. I'd expect to see 2 Xe cores unless they're literally using the same GPU tile as MTL in which case it'd be 3 or 4, but we're definitely not seeing 7 or 8.

But never mind that. Speaking of Arrow Lake the naming scheme is confusing. Lame. 🤪

I think dropping the i for ultra is peak dumb, but it's better than AI so I guess that's something.

But i9 290K, 280K, i7 270 sound more sensible.

Given that there's a 245K and a 240 I'm assuming Intel has some sort of plan for that final digit in the name.

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

UPDATE.

Like I mentioned earlier, these new rumored dates were incorrect.

I have confirmed this from Colorful and ASUS board partners. And Benchlife now also has shed some light on this, and so has the original twitter user.

""Notices began to appear on the Internet that the Arrow Lake-S, that is, K-series Intel Core Ultra 2 processors may be postponed to December, but our reliable information mentioned that the relevant information may not be true.

At the same time, K-series Intel Core Ultra 2 processors and Z890 chip motherboards will be released in mid-to-early October (it is unlikely to happen in October).

In the future, there should be more information to confirm whether Arrow Lake's Intel Core Ultra 2 series processors and 800 series chip motherboards will be launched in October as scheduled.""

via Benchlife.

The Quality Sample/QS sample data seeding has been move up to WW 34-36, from the previous WW 40 timeline. So a late October launch is imminent for the flagship K parts.

6+8 die would be used on Non-K parts. The QS date has been set for WW 49. Which makes sense since these non-K parts would of course launch around CES 2025 time frame.

And, obviously the '8+16' die config has been reserved for K-class SKUs, the same as previous gen Raptor Lake lineup.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1811877506582012006

View: https://x.com/jaykihn0/status/1811877506582012006

 

[TechyIT223]

An October launch date really makes sense in this context.

What about LGA 1851 motherboard launch schedule?

 

[Deleted member 2731765]

What about LGA 1851 motherboard launch schedule?

Around the same time as Arrow Lake S lineup release date. But first we expect only the Z890 chipset motherboards to launch.

The mainstream B860 and H810 boards will most probably target a CES or Q1 2025 time frame, alongside the non-K 65 Watts processor lineup.