News Intel's Celeron G6900 Alder Lake CPU Struggles In AAA Games

[Admin]

The littlest member of the new Alder Lake family should probably stick to the home office and light content consumption tasks.

Intel's Celeron G6900 Alder Lake CPU Struggles In AAA Games : Read more

 

[Neilbob]

2C/2T just doesn't cut it. No need to add more than that.

This is one Intel Segmentation that really should go away now.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

I blame Microsoft. They allowed dual cores to meet the minimum spec for Windows 11, so this product can exist.

 

[Co BIY]

The use of a T100O GPU is interesting - Sounds like something worth reviewing especially if availability and pricing on them are better in some areas.

 

[InvalidError]

2C/2T just doesn't cut it. No need to add more than that.

4MB of cache doesn't help either. If you take an i9-10900k and disable four cores, the i9 often performs 15-20% better than its i5 counterpart with all clocks locked to the same frequency simply due to the i9 having 20MB of L3 vs 12MB for the i5. There is a similar pattern with Alder Lake too, which the i5-12xxx could really use yet another extra 6MB more L3$.

 

[InvalidError]

It has its place. The Celeron and Pentium are plenty good for several use cases including HTPC and basic office PCs. Why spend $120 when $50 will do just fine for those tasks.

Wouldn't be so sure about that. My mother doesn't do anything fancy on her Ryzen 2500U laptop and still complains it is slow. I tossed an SSD and fresh Windows install to clear out all remaining OEM bloat a few weeks ago. She says it is better but still not great.

That level of super-basic processing power is either for people desperate to throw something together on the smallest budget possible performance be damned or people who want to build a PC for a specific purpose (ex.: kiosks, ATMs, PoS terminals, etc.) and make it miserable for anything else on purpose so people will quit trying to use them for anything else.

 

[jpe1701]

Wouldn't be so sure about that. My mother doesn't do anything fancy on her Ryzen 2500U laptop and still complains it is slow. I tossed an SSD and fresh Windows install to clear out all remaining OEM bloat a few weeks ago. She says it is better but still not great.

That level of super-basic processing power is either for people desperate to throw something together on the smallest budget possible performance be damned or people who want to build a PC for a specific purpose (ex.: kiosks, ATMs, PoS terminals, etc.) and make it miserable for anything else on purpose so people will quit trying to use them for anything else.

Stop being cheap and buy your Mom a better laptop. lol. just kidding, but there are many people that use PCs with celeron and pentium processors and think nothing of the time things take. Things that would drive me mad waiting for, they do everyday and don't even realize it's that slow. They just see the cheap price tag and go with it. Besides they're not bad if all you are doing is web browsing, email, or office work as long as you don't do it all at once. I have a little chuwi laptop with a celeron n4120 quad core without hyperthreading that actually works incredibly well for what I use it for, and totally surprised me on how it performed even with emmc storage.

 

[jeremyj_83]

It has its place. The Celeron and Pentium are plenty good for several use cases including HTPC and basic office PCs. Why spend $120 when $50 will do just fine for those tasks.

It doesn't take much to bog down a 2c/2t CPU anymore even if all you are doing is basic office and browsing. My i5-6400 at work regularly gets bogged down. On average I have Outlook, Slack, OpenVPN, and 8 Firefox tabs open. CPU is usually in the 25-50% range and often goes higher than that.

 

[Neilbob]

... there are many people that use PCs with celeron and pentium processors and think nothing of the time things take. Things that would drive me mad waiting for, they do everyday and don't even realize it's that slow. They just see the cheap price tag and go with it. Besides they're not bad if all you are doing is web browsing, email, or office work as long as you don't do it all at once ...

The problem here is that the bulk of systems that end up with these Celerons will be the lowest of low end Dell and HP landfillers, for example, that not only have to run a web browser, email or office application, but also all the other bloated nonsense that these system integrators insist on adding in as a 'bonus'. Not to mention all the various things Windows itself performs in the background at the same time. A simple task like checking an email becomes, at that point, somewhere adrift of efficient.

The users of these systems may not realise things are going slow, but only because they don't know any better. I sometimes have to wonder if many people end up overpaying for a Mac further down the line because they have now formed the belief that Windows PCs are always that slow, regardless.

 

[jpe1701]

The problem here is that the bulk of systems that end up with these Celerons will be the lowest of low end Dell and HP landfillers, for example, that not only have to run a web browser, email or office application, but also all the other bloated nonsense that these system integrators insist on adding in as a 'bonus'. Not to mention all the various things Windows itself performs in the background at the same time. A simple task like checking an email becomes, at that point, somewhere adrift of efficient.

The users of these systems may not realise things are going slow, but only because they don't know any better. I sometimes have to wonder if many people end up overpaying for a Mac further down the line because they have now formed the belief that Windows PCs are always that slow, regardless.

I agree, and they buy things that are already way out of date not knowing any better too. I get by with my little cheap laptop because I am obsessed with keeping track of everything using memory and budget it accordingly. On a personal note about this subject my sister in-law who insisted that she didn't need help picking a laptop just picked up a shiny new laptop from Walmart. haha. It has an Intel dual core celeron n3350. Dual core with no hyperthreading. No windows 11 support. Which comedian was it that used to say "Here's your sign..." ?

 

[watzupken]

When you consider the amount of background activities running in Windows, I am not surprised at all. In the past, I could still tolerate running Windows 7 on a mechanical hard drive. As we move on to Win 10, I was surprised at how unreasonably slow the same mechanical drive became. To the point where I thought the computer was broken. So with more background activities that are keeping the CPU busy, it will have a negative impact on gaming performance. And this doesn't even have HT, so making it more inefficient.

 

[JayNor]

So how do two Golden Cove cores do when combined with the fancy NVDA GPU boards that are used in all the other gaming tests?

 

[hotaru.hino]

The other option here is to not run Windows on it.

I bought a Dell XPS 13 laptop with an i5 in it. Windows was a bit of a slog even after debloating it. Put Zorin OS on it and it's almost as if it's an entirely different machine.

 

[Olle P]

But: Can it play Minesweeper?

 

[jeremyj_83]

But: Can it play Minesweeper?

Its a Celeron so that is asking quite a lot.