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Intel's Coffee Lake Lineup Leaks Out

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AgentLozen

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I'm curious to see where the pricing falls this generation. Historically, the 4770k, 6700k, and 7700k all had mid $300 price tags. Now that there is a renewed battle with AMD with more cores in the mix, I wonder if Intel will align the 8700k to fight toe to toe with the Ryzen 1800x.

So maybe:

8700k - $500 (Ryzen 1800x)
8600k - $400 (Ryzen 1700x)
8400 - $330 (Ryzen 1700)

To be fair, even the 8400 with 6 cores would wreck Kaby Lake's 7700k 4c/8t CPU in a multi threaded work load. Why not price it higher?
 

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I'm not gonna upgrade till i can get an overclocked to 5.2 7700k's single thread performance out of every core on an 8 core chip.
Gaming and multi-tasking bliss all in one.
 

kal326

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With the i9 series also 6 core and quad channel these should fall in line with current i7 pricing. Hard to charge a "premium" when HEDT chips are right above these core and clock wise. An i9 7800x is $400ish.
 

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AMD did a great job shaking things up over at intel. programmers are going to start taking time with multi core recognition over 4 cores. the war has begun. btw intel is goign to take a HUGE loss on the coffee lake chips.
 

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Yah, not buildign this to work on Z270 (or Z170) is going to be a bad move. I understand that dev started long before Ryzen was a thing but....If I have to buy an entire platform instead of just a CPU; Ryzen looks like a pretty good option.
 

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isn't this what Broadwell-E should have been 18mo ago? looks like 5820k/6800k (minus quad RAM & some cache) rebranded as 8700k with standard performance increases/efficiency that come from process improvements ...what am i missing?

that said... $300 & you might still have a customer in me (depending on how AMD 1700 prices react), even after 35yrs of screwing the market. i will hate myself for it, lol.
 


They have a huge markup on all their existing chips, so they'll still be making plenty of profit even after adding a couple more cores.
 

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8700K looks faster than an i7 7800X on paper. Sure it is on a mainstream platform but it should have a little better IPC, quite a lot more cache and a small clockspeed advantage. This adds up.

If Intel keep the price roughly the same as the current 7700k they have a winner there. It'll face down the Ryzen 1700 in multithreading despite being 2 cores down and absolutely batter it in single threaded and gaming. Not to mention it'll probably overclock a lot better......
 

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The Z300-series chipsets are rumored to add up to 24 lanes of PCIe 3.0, but they're still connected to the CPU via DMI 3.0 (x4 PCIe 3.0). The CPUs will still have x16 direct-connected lanes.
 
you gotta laugh at there advertising... 50% faster... yeah but also 50% more cores... and the other increases come from faster clocks. so in real terms theres no architectural improvements unless there doing it for 30% less power draw (i doupt it).
 

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The Coffee Lake i3 doesn't have HT, so that puts them on par with SB-KL i5.

As far as "holding back" is concerned, it really hasn't since higher core count CPUs have been available in the HEDT and server space for several years already. The only thing "new" here is more cores further down the product and pricing stack.

While the move is way overdue from a hardware progression point of view, mainstream software is just barely starting to make meaningful use of more than two cores. From Intel's point of views, it doesn't make any sense to offer more cores than necessary in the mainstream until it absolutely needs to since the market is already saturated and making more mainstream processing power available sooner than necessary would undermine current high-end sales for people who absolutely must have more processing power now and future mainstream sales to people who don't need it yet.

Having Ryzen forced Intel's hand a little. We'll see how much with Coffee Lake's pricing.
 

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Vega 56 is pretty interesting. In a few months I am hoping we'll see decent supply and more mature drivers. The drivers will help Vega 64 as well, but pricing on 56 is a lot more appealing, so unless Vega 64 pricing drops it's a no-go. Of course, prices are partially dependent on Ethereum mining developments. As difficulty rises and they eventually switch to PoS, mining demand will dry up... for the time being.

Anyway, they should bring 5th gen GCN down to smaller Ellesmere-sized chips, too. Something with around 2500 shaders at $200-250 and GDDR5/5X.
 

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Comparing 7800x to 8700K,
140W vs 95W TDP
3.5GHz boost to 4G Hz vs 3.8Ghz Boost to 4.7Ghz
8.5Mcache vs 12M cache
No GPU vs GPU

Seem like, Intel is able to bend the laws of physics here or something is not really right. It would be very interesting to see a head to head between this 2.
 
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