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sarinaide

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If you are not hashing/bitcoin mining or running a community grid then socket 2011 is not for you, the current mainstream i7 on 1155 basically renders socket 2011 as grossly irrelevent for a gaming rig and lower cost professional system.

If you want to buy and need a system now, just go buy a i5 or i7 on socket 1155, will give you everything you need.

 

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Thank You! I greatly appreciate your response.
 
haswell gets quick sync support
http://www.anandtech.com/print/6864/handbrake-to-get-quicksync-support
Intel's PixelSync & InstantAccess: Two New DirectX Extensions for Haswell
http://www.anandtech.com/print/6863/intels-pixelsync-instantaccess-two-new-directx-extensions-for-haswell

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Bay Trail Quad 22nm Atom in Q3 13
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/30906-bay-trail-quad-22nm-atom-in-q3-13
One-chip Haswell ULT aims for 8- to 10-hour battery life
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/30904-one-chip-haswell-ult-aims-for-8-to-10-hour-battery-life

Intel Should Take ARM License and Stop Messing – Co-Founder of ARM.
Co-Founder of Intel Urges Intel to Start Developing ARM-Compatible Chips
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20130327124543_Intel_Should_Take_ARM_License_and_Stop_Messing_Co_Founder_of_ARM.html

EK Water Blocks Announces De-Lidded Ivy Bridge CPU Cooling Solutions aptly called EK-Supremacy PrecisEmount add-on Naked Ivy cpuS
http://www.techpowerup.com/182088/EK-Water-Blocks-Announces-De-Lidded-Ivy-Bridge-CPU-Cooling-Solutions.html
not for teh faintheated!

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Intel’s New Extreme Processors Will Barely Improve Performance Significantly – Specifications.
Specifications of the First Core i7 “Ivy Bridge-E” Chips Get Published
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20130329141849_Intel_s_New_Extreme_Processors_Will_Barely_Improve_Performance_Significantly_Specifications.html

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Intel gets serious about graphics for gaming
http://techreport.com/news/24600/intel-gets-serious-about-graphics-for-gaming
...while game devs laugh...
 
^^ so... what does that mean?

looks like haswell gt3 is coming to dt after all. albeit in bga form factor. amd fanboys' worst nightmare comes true.

"Intel to Enable High-End Small PCs with Core i “Haswell” Chips with Improved Graphics Egine in BGA Form-Factor.
Intel to Offer Leading-Edge Core i “Haswell” Chips with Improved Graphics in BGA Packaging"
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20130407082818_Intel_to_Enable_High_End_Small_PCs_with_Core_i_Haswell_Chips_in_BGA_Form_Factor.html
dun! dun! dun!...

however. real world performance is another story. prices will be outworldly as well... :D

edit: re-placed the dun!s. >_>
 

JAYDEEJOHN

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It meana, its finely granulating of threads is a cache thrasher if true, which will slow it down with larger workloads, making it non competitive to GPUs in the markets where theyre to compete.
A smaller load level will suffice it appears.
It will come down to salesmanship, where they already have nVidia there, who does a good job, as most true usage is beyond the ease of use for the customer generally in whichever case they choose, be it GPU or x86 MiC.
Basically, they lose on the convenience factor having x86 at higher threading, it will come down to perf.
 

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Yeah lets just lock ourselves into a dead upgrade path for 20 execution units and probably a crap load of money. Sounds like a money scheme, I just wonder who will fall hook line and sinker for this.
 

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Its more principle, Intel have grown concerned at how far integrated solutions have come, but this product is what exactly;

1) locked down
2) GT3 is largely unknown but maybe 20% tops better than HD4600
3) iGPU frequency is insanely high, if its performance is not at least on par with AMD offerings it will be alarming.
4) CPU frequency is actually as high as APU's so its hardly a clock rate scenario these days.
5) DDR3, iGPU strangle hold
6) BGA solution with top end i5's and i7's is going to cost a fortune make no mistake here, and what you buy is what you have forever, resale on locked in systems is poor to.

 

JAYDEEJOHN

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Going BGA, using the top process, and cranking the frequency is exactly what I would expect of Intel.
BGA cuts power, widens thruput and their process speaks for itself.
This will be Intels best shot, using all these advantages, and if they cant do it here, they simply wont do it.
 

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Not many are to excited about BGA that I have spoken to, the idea of being locked in on DT is something that doesn't appeal to high power users, admittedly Intel as you say are trying everything to beat AMD in IGPU performance but at what cost, this is expensive to process and will cost the end user somewhere in excess of $700 plus the rest of the OEM parts which could easily see a $1k built in system on integrated graphics which is never going to stop a power user buying a LGA part. In mobility BGA is fine and Intel's mobile solutions will be impressive but this is just so fundamentally unsound the idea of Intel perverting the market with this is just horrifying.
 
i got a good idea about -R cpus' prices, those will be in a totally different price range from richland and the apus. amd will have a good chance to undercut intel with kaveri later this year.
most of these are gonna go into n.u.c. (i often wonder if they picked up the name while looking up castration >_>) and other sff pcs. that much raw performance within that tdp is good and since amd cannot offer that, intel will price them very high, ironically isolating potential customers of gt3 or even a core i3+gt3 cpu.

idf round up.

Intel shows off Rack Scale Architecture and Rack Disaggregation plans
http://semiaccurate.com/2013/04/09/intel-shows-off-rack-scale-architecture-and-rack-disaggregation-plans/
Intel talks about Briarwood, Avoton, Rangley, and Centerton Atoms
http://semiaccurate.com/2013/04/09/intel-talks-about-briarwood-avoton-rangley-and-centerton-atoms/
Intel talks up three new Xeon families at IDF
http://semiaccurate.com/2013/04/09/intel-talks-up-three-new-xeon-families-at-idf/
 

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Looking at the nature of it, a 4770R is a 4770, with it comes the far more silicon complex GT3e and aggressive boost frequencies, the 65w TPD clearly shows this is a locked chip though but we knew that as BGA will have no market for aftermarket cooling solutions or expansion cards so this is going to be a very expensive HTPC/SFF system. The only thing that is really impressive is intels thermals and that the iGPU is basically clocked more than 50% higher than AMD can clock its iGPU, but ultimately if you clock GT3e to 844mhz like Richland you will probably lose a terrible amount of performance from 1300+mhz, this will all be a factor when reviews come out.
 

JAYDEEJOHN

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But the costs keep climbing just to do what a APU will do, with slightly to better cpu capability for intended uses for the majority who will buy this and use all of its features, which slims it down market wise
 

sarinaide

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Well yeah, Intel do it on a cost don't matter basis, we know at the similar level Intel cannot match the APU so they have sacrifice x86 power to throw into the iGPU to try bring parity, if thats all GT3 is then its a monolithic failure but one Intel needs to pull through. They simply cannot be caught out of the integrated race. I just find this BGA solution really lame, thats just to try compete against a AMD SFF integrated solution thats going to make absolutely no sense.

If anyone but Asrock start to support AMD FM2 ITX platforms, it could be complete ownage of that segment. It is funny how the part Chris dismissed as having no place in DT computing is actually a part Intel cannot with all their muscle and money even compete with, scaling up to the top end of Intel CPU's. The APU came alive this year when its flexibility was shown, sure Intel have the x86 but they cannot create a part that can cost for cost compete with the APU for overal experience and this is not a swing, this is actually testiment to AMD here and Intel with all this has shown just how serious a threat they consider it.



 

JAYDEEJOHN

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AMD will be doing more BGA as well, and gain its benefits.

I think going APU or Intels solution will change peoples minds.
Having a so so process, a brand new form while going thru major transitions wasnt thought out Im sure, but not only APUs are here to stay, the very fact Intrel is using so much of their die space its made them look really square ;)
 

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