skywalker9952 :
So rather than offer a shred of evidence to back up your claim you call me lazy. I will repeat my claim, show me some definitive evidence that proves Intel will allow overclocking of mainstream nehalems and I will apologize. So far I have a toms hardware news report claiming an industry insider says mainstream nehalem will overclock as well as the high end. No technical details, no names, nothing. Fudzilla at least explains the process behind their argument. Heck I could be totally missing it. I must be I have all these people telling me to just read. ?
You can whine all you wish. The evidence is in the forum. If you choose to not seek it yourself, then yes, I will lable you as lazy. While it is your right to be lazy, do you really believe that I have either the time or the inclination to suckle information to you, just so you dont have to bother yourself with looking for it? If so, you are sorely mistaken. I will not, and now because in your offense at being labeled 'lazy' you have made a point of avoiding the search and attempting to paint me as the villain to your "innocence", I have made it a point to not provide you any help in locating that information. Most interestingly, several of the individuals who have participated in this thread were participants in the threads where the information you refuse to look for resides, yet they have not provided you with links either. I wonder why that is?
skywalker9952 :
Your personal crusade against thunderman is not my concern. You taking it to far kinda worried and offended me. When I called you on it you started attacking me personally.
I strongly recommend you contemplate the underlying logic of such statements before you post them. Had you thought for even the briefest of moments about your concept, you would probably arrived at the following conclusion:
Logic dictates that if, as you propose, I had some sort of "personal crusade" against thunderman, I would simply ban him and delete his posts.
Frankly, few would notice or mourn his absence, yet obviously I have not banned him, nor teletubbized him or babbled him, and he is still free to post, As such, your attempt to paint me as a being on some "personal crusade" fails, and the logic is so fundementally flawed that I must post a picture to emphasize your failure.
Similarly, if I had any such inclinations, I could ban you or anyone else I choose. I have not nor will I. In fact, in my time as a moderator, I have only ever permenently banned one regular, and temperarily banned 3. This does not include the "stranger" spamers or advertards. Soemthing else to consider when you are casting aspersions about 'personal crusades', or 'steering threads'
As far as your 'call on me', allow me to make this perfectly clear. You chose, of your own free will to become involved. You could have chose to remain unnivolved, but you did not. As such, you are as responsible for the interaction between us as thunderman and myself are responsible for the interaction between ourselves. Once again, this is an open forum. No one can expect to post and not have their posts responded to (though some do) yet you seem to expect something for nothing, in that apparently you beleive you can engage in the exchange, get what you want, and not have to do any of the legwork yourself. Heres another one that I am not going to provide links to, that you are going to have to find yourself, meaning it wont happen: When Fuads blog first hit the net, thunderman did infact state that 'Nehalem won't overclock', not "....Nehalem won't overclock unless you buy a top end extreme edition..." as you say in one of your posts. Why do I bring this up? Simply because it is the crux of the warning to thunderman. He has stated that Nehalem won't overclock before, and been proven wrong. He has since modified his statement, yet is still wrong, and he knows it. Once again, had you bothered reading beyond this thread, you would know that, but like so many others, you chose to jump in the middle of a thread and pick a side without researching first. That, in and of it self is niether uncommon nor unforgivable, yet you have been told that 'there is more' than what is in this thread. Failing to take that hint to go find the information is unforgivable and taints you.
In regards to publically chastizing thunderman, there is an old adage "Praise in public, punish in private". These are very wise words, yet there are times, in extreme cases when a 'public example' needs be made as warning to all. As in the case of someone who consistantly, persistantly misbehaves. This was one of those cases. If you dont like it, I honestly dont care, nor do I have to. As long as the reaction I intend is the one I gain, which is the gradual return of the forum to normal behavior, then I will be quite content regardless of any feathers I ruffled to achieve that result. In my protracted absense, the CPU forum has once again deteriorated into a 50 gallon drum of napalm. Now that I am back, (at least for the time being until work calls me away again) the unbelievabley excessive flaming will stop. A little flaming every once in a while is nothing, and if the parties involved do so from a perch of mutually good natured fun, or honest debate then all is well and good, but the state the forum is in now is unacceptable. You can choose to be part of the solution, or part of the problem and try to 'call me out' , but ultimately it matters little as the excessive flaming will stop and your input will have no effect.
In regards to "steering this thread where I want", you are absolutely, positively correct. I will steer this thread where I want, which is to the facts, and away from the fanboy lies.
skywalker9952 :
Now just to prove I can read:
Thunderman alleged FUD would have violated your Terms of Use (conduct policy), not your Terms of Service (a subset of your terms of use). You violated your TOS when you swore and dropped the GD. Of course I did as well, but I was just quoting a mod.
LOL, and much as it pains me to provide you any kind of link or evidence, Im afraid I must in this case, but only to prove that you dont read. Like several other of our more notorious posters (whom, by the way, I have also not banned) you apparently read only far enough to see that which you want to see, then rush out to the proverbial pulpit to preach your sermon:
In this case, you latched on to a single acronym: FUD.
Had you actually read, you would have seen many other terms including: “trolling”, “shilll”, “spreading lies” . The first two terms of these terms were modified by the (really try to pay attention now, as this is critically improtant) adjective “deliberately” The third term (again, try to pay attention) was modified by another adjective, “willfully”.
turpit :
For him to continue using the argument when it has been disproved indicates he is either schilling or willfully spreading lies...both of which are violations of TOS.
turpit :
Further, thundeman already having the correct information, is either deliberatly spreading FUD, trolling, or a shill....
Now, in regards to the
TERMS OF SERVICE, as I stated,
not the Terms Of Use as you claim, I must provide a quote:
hate propaganda or hate mongering, swearing, or fraudulent material or activity
In deleberatly trolling, shilling, willfully lying or posting FUD, Thundermans post consitutes the violation of the TOS to which I was refering, specifically fraudulent activity.
fraud•u•lent
–adjective
1. characterized by, involving, or proceeding from fraud, as actions, enterprise, methods, or gains: a fraudulent scheme to evade taxes.
2. given to or using fraud, as a person; cheating; dishonest.
Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
fraud
1. deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage.
2. a particular instance of such deceit or trickery: mail fraud; election frauds.
3. any deception, trickery, or humbug: That diet book is a fraud and a waste of time.
4. a person who makes deceitful pretenses; sham; poseur.
Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
And do you know what the funny thing is? In your rush to demonstrate you are not lazy, and to attempt to discredit me, the very tidbit from the terms of service that you chose to use (which you failed to cite, by the way) is the very same line which contains the specific term of service that thunderman is violating. Do you have any concept of the level of irony you achieved? Epic is far too shallow a word to cover it. You read the line, but you did not “read”. Totally, unabashedly, classic.
Now, as far as that particular line in the terms of service and swearing, Goddam is not swearing. Perhaps in your culture/religion it is, but as this particular THG site is intended for the US, and the US is by law non-secular, Goddam is not 'swearing'. And should you choose to counter with the "well it offends me" argument, I will simply counter with "OK, it offends you, therefore I must remove it. In the same vein, you offend me, therefore you must remove yourself. Do so now"
skywalker9952 :
So as a family forum your response to question is to read the forum. Nice. Why even post if that is what you are going to say. Oh and attack me for being lazy and not wanting to study. Maybe you should do some studying of your own terms of use. It clearly states in the Terms of Use that Bestofmedia(BOM) is not responsible for the content posted on the forums and that the forum poster is responsible. So when you told croc the site was responsible you were wrong according to your TOS. But I am "clearly not interested in reading or studying," so what do I know?
The meaning of "family forum" is that the site is open to everyone above the age of 13. In other words, as I have stated so often, "open to everyone" and not the personal domain of anyone individual or group. The meaning of "not responsible" is to protect BoM from legal action, not to “make it ok to offend children”. And yes, clearly you are not interested in reading or studying. You do not 'read' meaning while you may consume the written word, you can not or choose not to comprehend. Were you interested in 'reading' you would have understood that for yourself without having to have it explained to you.
You also seeming have another comprehension difficulty. You seem to feel it is my responsibility to ‘wet nurse’ you. You are wrong. My responsibility as a moderator is to maintain some semblence of decorum within the forum while at the same time keeping restrictions on freedom of expression to an absolute bare minimum or less. It is not to spoon feed every kiddie who is too lazy to search for information. It is that simple.
Now, because this thread has deteriorated into yet another annoying and pointlessly derailed flame fest, I am going to lock it. However, in the intereset of avoiding more annoying whining from you , I am going to give you the last word. So, go ahead and post your final response. Take your time, make sure you are happy with it. When I see that you have posted it, the thread will have the locking it so richly deserves. But fear not, I will not delete the thread. This way everyone can partake of your uncontested words of wisdom.
*douses thread in petrol and ignites*
fire or decapitation kills pretty much all know things, lets see what it will take to kill this thread.
It will be locked soon enough. Don’t you have a wingding waiting for you to pleasure him???
jaguarskx :
I suppose petitioning for an IQ Test and scoring above a certain threshold as a requirement before being able to join THG as a member is too much to ask.
Then THG would be like a couple of other sites (who shall remain un-named) which are little more than thinly disguised blogs..
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