- Jul 21, 2015
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Hey guys,
This last week I built a system for a client who's primary intention will be heavy gaming with maybe the occasional non time constrained video encoding. In efforts to save some cash we both decided the FX-9370 was the choice and would pair it with the Crosshair V. Then we added a great MSI 980 Ti that oc'ed amazingly well (+175 core / + 600 bench and game stable though a little hot) but that's a talk for another time.
I'm an Intel guy personally due to being able to perform in my more professional applications a little quicker in most cases, so I haven't had as much pleasure to work with AMD as I have Intel. I've only worked with maybe 30 AMD cpu's in my time, and they always seem to perform very well for gaming rigs although most have been lower end cpu's or apu's.
Not aiming to overclock was the idea. Having a 4.4Ghz (4.7 Turbo) factory clock on basically a higher binned version of a FX 8350 with an included closed loop cooler seemed good as I understood it. By time you buy a 8350 and a AIO you spend just a few bucks less, have to oc the chip to the proper speed, and you don't have a guarantee really on getting a high binned chip.
Being aware of the 220w TDP and the heat, I thought about recommending a Corsair AIO naturally, but I really wanted to test the AIO that comes with the CPU and save him a bit more (A model of Cooler Master btw).
Anyways, to get to the punch line. At stock settings the AIO included didn't seem as efficient as one would like, showing me temps on the core of 60c and 73c at the socket just mere minutes (10 or so) into prime as well as other stress tests in an environment at 24c.
In gaming, the stock vcore (1.404 in the bios, not sure what it's suppose to be) and speed was fine, no worries really with temps. 60c socket and 51c core after a hour or two. However, for any system that is going to be doing compression or encoding, the temps at higher loads was unacceptable.
I mentioned this to the client and recommended a better cooler... then I decided, lets do some tweaking.
I decided to start lowering the voltage from 1.404v until instabilities were present to try to reduce the power draw and heat. I was very impressed to say the least, reaching a vcore of 1.32 stable after hours of stressing. I wanted to go even lower at that point but with temps at 49c on the socket and 40c on the core, now we had some room to overclock (which wasn't the intention but why not).
4.8Ghz on this chip in particular needed 1.416v to remain stable which turned out to be a bit much for the cooler, so I went down to 4.7 to see the results and then started decreasing vcore again.
The chip managed to remain stable after hours of stressing at 4.7Ghz with a vcore of 1.356. I'm not sure if this anything special now a days or with these chips, however I haven't personally had the pleasure to test any chip at this speed at the current vcore and it be able to even load into windows let alone survive hours of torture. I was presently surprised by the temps as well showing me temps of 60c on the socket and 49c on the core with the included AIO cooler and fans that it came with.
So, is this a "luck of the draw" situation and the client got lucky or is this the usual with these chips (8320, 8350, 9370, or 9590)? I can't really find much relevant data other than than "THESE CHIPS ARE HOT!!!".
Pics can be presented once the client receives the pc, was shipped out today along with the screens *face palm*.
This last week I built a system for a client who's primary intention will be heavy gaming with maybe the occasional non time constrained video encoding. In efforts to save some cash we both decided the FX-9370 was the choice and would pair it with the Crosshair V. Then we added a great MSI 980 Ti that oc'ed amazingly well (+175 core / + 600 bench and game stable though a little hot) but that's a talk for another time.
I'm an Intel guy personally due to being able to perform in my more professional applications a little quicker in most cases, so I haven't had as much pleasure to work with AMD as I have Intel. I've only worked with maybe 30 AMD cpu's in my time, and they always seem to perform very well for gaming rigs although most have been lower end cpu's or apu's.
Not aiming to overclock was the idea. Having a 4.4Ghz (4.7 Turbo) factory clock on basically a higher binned version of a FX 8350 with an included closed loop cooler seemed good as I understood it. By time you buy a 8350 and a AIO you spend just a few bucks less, have to oc the chip to the proper speed, and you don't have a guarantee really on getting a high binned chip.
Being aware of the 220w TDP and the heat, I thought about recommending a Corsair AIO naturally, but I really wanted to test the AIO that comes with the CPU and save him a bit more (A model of Cooler Master btw).
Anyways, to get to the punch line. At stock settings the AIO included didn't seem as efficient as one would like, showing me temps on the core of 60c and 73c at the socket just mere minutes (10 or so) into prime as well as other stress tests in an environment at 24c.
In gaming, the stock vcore (1.404 in the bios, not sure what it's suppose to be) and speed was fine, no worries really with temps. 60c socket and 51c core after a hour or two. However, for any system that is going to be doing compression or encoding, the temps at higher loads was unacceptable.
I mentioned this to the client and recommended a better cooler... then I decided, lets do some tweaking.
I decided to start lowering the voltage from 1.404v until instabilities were present to try to reduce the power draw and heat. I was very impressed to say the least, reaching a vcore of 1.32 stable after hours of stressing. I wanted to go even lower at that point but with temps at 49c on the socket and 40c on the core, now we had some room to overclock (which wasn't the intention but why not).
4.8Ghz on this chip in particular needed 1.416v to remain stable which turned out to be a bit much for the cooler, so I went down to 4.7 to see the results and then started decreasing vcore again.
The chip managed to remain stable after hours of stressing at 4.7Ghz with a vcore of 1.356. I'm not sure if this anything special now a days or with these chips, however I haven't personally had the pleasure to test any chip at this speed at the current vcore and it be able to even load into windows let alone survive hours of torture. I was presently surprised by the temps as well showing me temps of 60c on the socket and 49c on the core with the included AIO cooler and fans that it came with.
So, is this a "luck of the draw" situation and the client got lucky or is this the usual with these chips (8320, 8350, 9370, or 9590)? I can't really find much relevant data other than than "THESE CHIPS ARE HOT!!!".
Pics can be presented once the client receives the pc, was shipped out today along with the screens *face palm*.
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