Internet browsers lag with new monitor.

[TheShaun]

I was recently given a new monitor for my computer because they didn't need it anymore and it's bigger than my old one. But immediately I have issues with both of my browsers taking way too long to bring up pages (as long as 30 seconds sometimes) that normally took about 1 second. Sometimes even clicking the bookmark a second time after getting impatient will make it finally load the page quickly like it normally should. It only happens about 1/3 of the time, but it's enough to be annoying when I'm in a hurry. My old one didn't require any special changes to be made when I first got it to replace the one before it except for changing the size of the area that displays picture to fit the actual size of the screen. Of which I had to do within my GPU settings with the scaling settings. This new one seemed to do it on it's own. Any ideas on how to track down what could be causing the lag?

In case other components' compatibility with the new monitor is the issue, here are the specs:
OS - Windows 7 Ultimate
Motherboard - ASRock 980de3/u3s3
CPU - AMD FX 4300 3.8GHz Quad
GPU - Sapphire Radeon R9 380
New monitor - Haier 32"

 

[Eximo]

Well if you did any adjustments in the GPU menu, you should revert those to the defaults.

If the monitor has available drivers, install those. If you are using VGA, don't, you will see better results by using a digital connection.

Desktop scaling via Windows really messes up certain browsers, and you get different behaviors in different browsers.

My rule of thumb is desktop scaling disabled unless you really need it to see icons. At 32" 1080p should be enormous at normal PC viewing distances.

 

[TheShaun]

Well if you did any adjustments in the GPU menu, you should revert those to the defaults.

If the monitor has available drivers, install those. If you are using VGA, don't, you will see better results by using a digital connection.

Desktop scaling via Windows really messes up certain browsers, and you get different behaviors in different browsers.

My rule of thumb is desktop scaling disabled unless you really need it to see icons. At 32" 1080p should be enormous at normal PC viewing distances.

What? Every monitor has to have drivers installed? I didn't install any for my last monitor and it worked perfectly fine. How do I even check if this monitor needs drivers installed?

No VGA, I'm using HDMI.

Just turned off the scaling setting. Nothing visibly changed and browsers are still slower.

"At 32" 1080p should be enormous at normal PC viewing distances." I have no clue what that sentence means. I don't even know if this monitor is 1080p. I tried googling how to check my monitor's resolution but it only directed me to pages that said to go with "recommended". My PC recommends 1360 x 768. That's not even the same type of numbers. I am not as tech savvy as I seemed in my initial inquiry (not sure if I spelled inquiry correctly cause google is taking too long to load). I only know what I have dealt with and solved in the past. I've never had an issue with monitors before. I only changed monitors twice. Last time which I only had to scale the image, and this time which did it on it's own.

 

[TheShaun]

Just checked the driver for monitors in device manager and it said it's up to date.

Also I looked for a "default" setting in my GPU menu but there isn't one. It just has a bunch of settings that I don't know what they do. So I never changed them, not even with the old monitor. Basically, through 3 monitors I only changed the scaling. I removed that to see if it helped but it didn't.

 

[Eximo]

You'll find drivers for a lot of monitors out there. Check the manufacturer's site. Default drivers provided by Windows tend to work for most monitors as well, they are all very similar after all. You'll certainly see drivers for monitors that have USB hubs and camera/microphones. Though again, default drivers can take care of a lot of functionality.

Well most of the Haier 32" model TVs I see out there are 720p, so quite conceivable they used a cheap 1366x768 panel. 1280x720 and 1366x768 aren't an exact match, so it may be rescaling inputs on its own, which could be part of the problem.

As for your browsing difficulties, I can only guess on what the problem is there. Not really enough information to go off of. If the browser canvas is trying to resize to an already resized image, and you still have GPU scaling enabled (You've said you have both made no changes and used the settings menu to make the image fit screen, not sure now) that could be part of the problem.

FYI:
Actual 4K = 4096x2160
2160p (UHD) = 3840x2160 (You'll see this marketed as 4K)
1080p (FHD) = 1920x1080
720p (HD) = 1280x720
480p = SVGA = 640x480 (Briefly made an appearance on some CRT TVs and the original Nintendo Wii)
480i US Broadcast TV (640x480 interlaced)

 

[TheShaun]

You'll find drivers for a lot of monitors out there. Check the manufacturer's site. Default drivers provided by Windows tend to work for most monitors as well, they are all very similar after all. You'll certainly see drivers for monitors that have USB hubs and camera/microphones. Though again, default drivers can take care of a lot of functionality.

Well most of the Haier 32" model TVs I see out there are 720p, so quite conceivable they used a cheap 1366x768 panel. 1280x720 and 1366x768 aren't an exact match, so it may be rescaling inputs on its own, which could be part of the problem.

As for your browsing difficulties, I can only guess on what the problem is there. Not really enough information to go off of. If the browser canvas is trying to resize to an already resized image, and you still have GPU scaling enabled (You've said you have both made no changes and used the settings menu to make the image fit screen, not sure now) that could be part of the problem.

FYI:
Actual 4K = 4096x2160
2160p (UHD) = 3840x2160 (You'll see this marketed as 4K)
1080p (FHD) = 1920x1080
720p (HD) = 1280x720
480p = SVGA = 640x480 (Briefly made an appearance on some CRT TVs and the original Nintendo Wii)
480i US Broadcast TV (640x480 interlaced)

The driver already says it's up to date.

Scaling has been turned off.

Resolution says 1360 x 768.

Issue remains.

 

[Eximo]

Windows doesn't know anything about up to date drivers. It only knows that it doesn't have anything newer. If there is a specific or more up to date driver it would have to be in the driver store for it to make a comparison.

Scaling in Windows, scaling in your GPU's control panel, scaling options on the display itself, you have a lot of options.

Okay, if the screen is a 1366x768 panel (which is terrible for a 32" screen)

Yes, but aside from a vague description of slower web page loads, we have nothing to go on. Are those sites flash based, or have video ads on them, etc, or are we talking the google home page?

 

[TheShaun]

Windows doesn't know anything about up to date drivers. It only knows that it doesn't have anything newer. If there is a specific or more up to date driver it would have to be in the driver store for it to make a comparison.

Scaling in Windows, scaling in your GPU's control panel, scaling options on the display itself, you have a lot of options.

Okay, if the screen is a 1366x768 panel (which is terrible for a 32" screen)

Yes, but aside from a vague description of slower web page loads, we have nothing to go on. Are those sites flash based, or have video ads on them, etc, or are we talking the google home page?

I don't know anything about up to date drivers either.

By scaling in windows, do you mean the resolution? Wouldn't changing that make it not fit the screen?

As far as the slow page loading, all of the above. I also just discovered it lags even opening notepad.

 

[Eximo]

Desktop scaling is not the same thing as resolution. Normally it is used to make small things larger. In your case you might want to consider scaling to make things smaller. This can mess with browser rendering though. They all respond a little differently.

Confirmation that the 32" screen has a native resolution of 1366x768 would help. If you can get the exact model we can look it up. Setting it higher usually isn't an option. Since it is likely a TV, it may actually prefer 1280x720 resolution as well (It is what most HD broadcasts on TV are, despite claims otherwise from various broadcasters)

I suspect hard drive power settings now actually for your slow starts. No reason notepad would be effected by a monitor swap. Head over to the power options menu in control panel and check the advanced settings for when the disk should shut off.

 

[TheShaun]

The setting for desktop, window, and text size in control panel is set to it's lowest setting.

I looked up it's model and it say it's max resolution is 1366 x 768.

Hard drive is set to never turn off.

 

[TheShaun]

I checked the Haier website but it doesn't say anything about drivers in it's download section.

 

[TheShaun]

I just tested all other options for resolution and only 1360 x 768 fits the screen correctly. Not even 1366 x 768 fits, it has to be 1360. Everything else pushes part of the desktop off screen. Especially the system tray, it's not visible at any resolution other than 1360 x 768.

Is it possible that a monitor can not be compatible with some computers? Cause if so, I'll just switch back to my old monitor even though it's smaller.

 

[Eximo]

Well Haier isn't exactly a brand with a known reputation. 1360x768 is a very strange resolution and could be part of the problem. I would also confirm if it was designed for 60hz. Might be a 50hz panel intended for Europe and they are overclocking it or some other such nonsense. Still don't see how this would cause browser problems though.

 

[TheShaun]

Well Haier isn't exactly a brand with a known reputation. 1360x768 is a very strange resolution and could be part of the problem. I would also confirm if it was designed for 60hz. Might be a 50hz panel intended for Europe and they are overclocking it or some other such nonsense. Still don't see how this would cause browser problems though.

I checked the manual and it confirms 60hz.

I tried selecting a different resolution and using my graphics card settings to scale it to fit but it doesn't provide a range to scale it to in order to make it fit.

I'm not completely positive that the issue is even the monitor. I assume it because the problems first started as soon as the computer was turned on with this monitor. I've checked for viruses just in case and found none.

 

[TheShaun]

I am about to just say forget it and switch back to my last monitor. You, Eximo, are the only one even trying to help. But we can't seem to locate the source of the issue. Maybe there's a detail that we're missing or maybe we're fighting a no win battle(like the TV just isn't capable of being used as a monitor).

 

[TheShaun]

I just hooked up my previous monitor and everything is behaving normally. No lag at all. I do not understand why. But I did notice that even this site is displayed to me differently between the two monitors. On this monitor, the notifications thing at the top right of this website is completely different than the new monitor. This one(the old one) shows two parts, notifications and messages(indicated by a pic of a piece of mail). The new one shows just my name and puts a green dot on it when I have either a message or a response to my threads and I have to click it to even see which one. So it has to be something different between the monitors. You know more about monitors than me, what could be causing it? My best guess is my pc is trying to behave the same way with the bigger monitor as it does with the smaller one since it I didn't change anything with the new monitor when I first connected it. At least nothing that I haven't mentioned in this thread. Any ideas?

 

[Eximo]

The monitor is not going to change how a website is displayed so if you are seeing something different it will be related to resolution and scaling again. Websites can certainly provided different layouts for different resolutions, or have their sites scale to screen resolution themselves.

Have you tried clearing the cache of your browsers? Might just be some resolution specific cookies that are stored and the lag is caused by having to download a new one when the one it already loaded wasn't applicable. (I would have thought browsers would have taken care of such problems a long time ago though.)

 

[TheShaun]

I thought that was something they took care of since my last monitor change didn't have that issue. But it seems that might have been the issue. I cleared my browsers with CCleaner and now the new monitor has been working fine so far.