iOS 6 Now Installed On 300 Million Devices
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Is this information really important enough for it's own article that is only two paragraphs long..?
ericburnby
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[citation][nom]Northwestern[/nom]Is this information really important enough for it's own article that is only two paragraphs long..?[/citation]
Apparently important enough for you to click on it and then waste time commenting (complaining).
I never understood why so many people have difficulty looking at an article title to see if it's something they care to read or not. I never bother to read over half of Tom's articles because the topic is something I'm not interested in.
Perhaps I should start clicking on them and posting useless comments? Then I could "fit in" with so many others here at Tom's.
Apparently important enough for you to click on it and then waste time commenting (complaining).
I never understood why so many people have difficulty looking at an article title to see if it's something they care to read or not. I never bother to read over half of Tom's articles because the topic is something I'm not interested in.
Perhaps I should start clicking on them and posting useless comments? Then I could "fit in" with so many others here at Tom's.
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[citation][nom]jaber2[/nom]Compare to Android?[/citation]
Google's latest Android figures direct from their Android developers site:
10.2% on Jelly Bean
29.1% on ICS
47.6% on Gingerbread
Google's latest Android figures direct from their Android developers site:
10.2% on Jelly Bean
29.1% on ICS
47.6% on Gingerbread
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I think upgrades on android would be more common if carriers and manufacturers didn't try so hard to force their custom ROMs and never bother to update anything.
The only reason I'm able to be on jelly bean is because cyanogen supports my phone. Otherwise according to wikipedia I'd be sitting on their version of ICS.
The only reason I'm able to be on jelly bean is because cyanogen supports my phone. Otherwise according to wikipedia I'd be sitting on their version of ICS.
[citation][nom]False_Dmitry_II[/nom]I think upgrades on android would be more common if carriers and manufacturers didn't try so hard to force their custom ROMs and never bother to update anything.The only reason I'm able to be on jelly bean is because cyanogen supports my phone. Otherwise according to wikipedia I'd be sitting on their version of ICS.[/citation]
Well smart phone brands dont all want to run the exact same version of Android because it will not create brand loyalty and consumers of Android will flock to whatever smart phone is best at the time. So companies will place their own stamp on the Android OS in hopes that it is better than the next company and retain customers.
Well smart phone brands dont all want to run the exact same version of Android because it will not create brand loyalty and consumers of Android will flock to whatever smart phone is best at the time. So companies will place their own stamp on the Android OS in hopes that it is better than the next company and retain customers.
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This news is interpreted as "look how good we swear our device ecosystem is!" in an attempt to beat back the android hordes at the gate. Apple is tanking since the innovative distinction of a slab of glass is wearing off, and they want to try to get in any jab they can.
How many can run Siri? How many of them sync over wifi and can integrate with iCloud? Instead of a fragmented OS revision, Apple has introduced a fragmented OS experience, and they (and all the fanboys and shills) are trying to paint that as worlds ahead of Android.
Not ahead, just different. And don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
How many can run Siri? How many of them sync over wifi and can integrate with iCloud? Instead of a fragmented OS revision, Apple has introduced a fragmented OS experience, and they (and all the fanboys and shills) are trying to paint that as worlds ahead of Android.
Not ahead, just different. And don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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[citation][nom]joebob2000[/nom]This news is interpreted as "look how good we swear our device ecosystem is!" in an attempt to beat back the android hordes at the gate. Apple is tanking since the innovative distinction of a slab of glass is wearing off, and they want to try to get in any jab they can.How many can run Siri? How many of them sync over wifi and can integrate with iCloud? Instead of a fragmented OS revision, Apple has introduced a fragmented OS experience, and they (and all the fanboys and shills) are trying to paint that as worlds ahead of Android.Not ahead, just different. And don't let anyone tell you otherwise.[/citation]
Please. iOS fragmentation is nothing compared to the mess that is Android. An iPhone 4 can run iOS 6 and gets access to 99% of the API's that come with it. Sure it doesn't get turn-by-turn or Siri, but these are essentially Apps, not API's.
I develop for Android and iOS. If you want to go down this road and discuss the differences in developing for both, then I welcome it. Android is a complete mess of fragmentation compared to iOS. This is a cold, hard fact that can't be argued against except by people who nothing about coding software.
Please. iOS fragmentation is nothing compared to the mess that is Android. An iPhone 4 can run iOS 6 and gets access to 99% of the API's that come with it. Sure it doesn't get turn-by-turn or Siri, but these are essentially Apps, not API's.
I develop for Android and iOS. If you want to go down this road and discuss the differences in developing for both, then I welcome it. Android is a complete mess of fragmentation compared to iOS. This is a cold, hard fact that can't be argued against except by people who nothing about coding software.
iOS 6 is already jailbroken and no one's talking bout that 😀
check it out http://jailbreakyourios.net/
check it out http://jailbreakyourios.net/
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[citation][nom]ericburnby[/nom]Please. iOS fragmentation is nothing compared to the mess that is Android. An iPhone 4 can run iOS 6 and gets access to 99% of the API's that come with it. Sure it doesn't get turn-by-turn or Siri, but these are essentially Apps, not API's.I develop for Android and iOS. If you want to go down this road and discuss the differences in developing for both, then I welcome it. Android is a complete mess of fragmentation compared to iOS. This is a cold, hard fact that can't be argued against except by people who nothing about coding software.[/citation]
So you would rather have one API to develop under where apps may or may not run like **** depending on the device, instead of an API system that advances with hardware capabilities? Good for you. There is no way to simply make old devices work like new ones, most of us have accepted that but Apple continues to try. Meanwhile, my old iPod touch has been locked out of several apps since it can't take the iOS 6 update and many major app devs have removed previous versions. Thanks, Apple, for an ecosystem that makes my device do less today than when i bought it! I will stick with Android, thankyouverymuch.
So you would rather have one API to develop under where apps may or may not run like **** depending on the device, instead of an API system that advances with hardware capabilities? Good for you. There is no way to simply make old devices work like new ones, most of us have accepted that but Apple continues to try. Meanwhile, my old iPod touch has been locked out of several apps since it can't take the iOS 6 update and many major app devs have removed previous versions. Thanks, Apple, for an ecosystem that makes my device do less today than when i bought it! I will stick with Android, thankyouverymuch.
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[citation][nom]joebob2000[/nom]This news is interpreted as "look how good we swear our device ecosystem is!" in an attempt to beat back the android hordes at the gate. Apple is tanking since the innovative distinction of a slab of glass is wearing off, and they want to try to get in any jab they can.How many can run Siri? How many of them sync over wifi and can integrate with iCloud? Instead of a fragmented OS revision, Apple has introduced a fragmented OS experience, and they (and all the fanboys and shills) are trying to paint that as worlds ahead of Android.Not ahead, just different. And don't let anyone tell you otherwise.[/citation]
Apple is hardly tanking. The main reasons iOS is "fragmented" as you put it, is due to hardware limitations on older devices. Android is fragmented because the manufacturers don't want to spend the time to update there customers devices. Guess thats the price somone pays for an open platform.
Apple is hardly tanking. The main reasons iOS is "fragmented" as you put it, is due to hardware limitations on older devices. Android is fragmented because the manufacturers don't want to spend the time to update there customers devices. Guess thats the price somone pays for an open platform.
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[citation][nom]ericburnby[/nom]Google's latest Android figures direct from their Android developers site:10.2% on Jelly Bean29.1% on ICS47.6% on Gingerbread[/citation]
Nothing much to compare, your looking at mostly Android phones. iOS devices includes iPod's, iTouch's, iPad, iPhone, etc. To make this apples to apples you would need to pull out the count of iPhones/iPads and compare to Android phones/tablets since there is little to no music players.
Plus I would be curious to know how many devices 30% ICS equals, you might be surprised to see that being 200+ million devices. Samsung sold 60 million ICS devices in Q4 2012 alone, never mind going back to when it was released Nov-Dec 2011. Jelly Bean was just released in the last 2 months.
Nothing much to compare, your looking at mostly Android phones. iOS devices includes iPod's, iTouch's, iPad, iPhone, etc. To make this apples to apples you would need to pull out the count of iPhones/iPads and compare to Android phones/tablets since there is little to no music players.
Plus I would be curious to know how many devices 30% ICS equals, you might be surprised to see that being 200+ million devices. Samsung sold 60 million ICS devices in Q4 2012 alone, never mind going back to when it was released Nov-Dec 2011. Jelly Bean was just released in the last 2 months.
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[citation][nom]LightningStryk17[/nom]Apple is hardly tanking. The main reasons iOS is "fragmented" as you put it, is due to hardware limitations on older devices. Android is fragmented because the manufacturers don't want to spend the time to update there customers devices. Guess thats the price somone pays for an open platform.[/citation]
Incorrect, most Gingerbread devices that are not being upgraded is due to hardware. ICS was designed for multi-core processors, as such many dual core phones have been upgraded to it. If your using an old Droid X2, your going to be stuck on Gingerbread because its single core and those phones are still in use.
The ISP/manufacturers are definitely slower to roll out updates to older phones, but then again there are more phones to update. Sadly it doesn't really matter, software written for Gingerbread will run on ICS and Jelly Bean, most developers build for older versions of android for higher use rates unless there is a feature that requires one of the newer SDK's.
At the end of the day, core features, phone + email + texting + web + video + and 99% of apps on android work with Gingerbread and up. So the fragmentation has little impact on user experience.
Incorrect, most Gingerbread devices that are not being upgraded is due to hardware. ICS was designed for multi-core processors, as such many dual core phones have been upgraded to it. If your using an old Droid X2, your going to be stuck on Gingerbread because its single core and those phones are still in use.
The ISP/manufacturers are definitely slower to roll out updates to older phones, but then again there are more phones to update. Sadly it doesn't really matter, software written for Gingerbread will run on ICS and Jelly Bean, most developers build for older versions of android for higher use rates unless there is a feature that requires one of the newer SDK's.
At the end of the day, core features, phone + email + texting + web + video + and 99% of apps on android work with Gingerbread and up. So the fragmentation has little impact on user experience.
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OMG, look at that! My PC runs Win7, my wife's still has Win Vista, and at work a lot of them are on XP! Not to mention that there are 32 bit/64 bit versions, the Pro/Server/Home/WhatNot editions... How fragmented is that?
Every OS in the world has some devices that run certain versions better than others. Older hardware is left in the dust because that's what progress means. Funny how iOS users act like their farts don't stink, when the truth is their devices are subjected to the same phenomenon like the rest. Stating that the iOS devices all run the same OS version (while at the same time they admit that not all the functionality is preserved) is a failed attempt to deny the same fragmentation that plagues every single OS.
If the device works as intended that is enough in itself. Some people want the latest (but they don't get the greatest at the same time, because their device is not supported), but most customers are happy their phones work as intended. Guess what, everyone that wanted ICS or JB on their phones already got it, one way or another. The rest don't care, or they would have already upgraded their phones.
iOS actually has the "reputation" of crippling the older hardware with their "upgrades". Remember when iOS 4 tanked so many iPhones 3G and 3GS? What used to be a nice and smooth experience suddenly became choppy, unresponsive, in some cases unusable. Then Apple wised up and instead of pushing the new OS, they pretty much changed the "about" section to say it runs the latest OS, even though was a crippled version, with a bunch of apps missing. One can do the same on any Android phone by editing a file.
Every OS in the world has some devices that run certain versions better than others. Older hardware is left in the dust because that's what progress means. Funny how iOS users act like their farts don't stink, when the truth is their devices are subjected to the same phenomenon like the rest. Stating that the iOS devices all run the same OS version (while at the same time they admit that not all the functionality is preserved) is a failed attempt to deny the same fragmentation that plagues every single OS.
If the device works as intended that is enough in itself. Some people want the latest (but they don't get the greatest at the same time, because their device is not supported), but most customers are happy their phones work as intended. Guess what, everyone that wanted ICS or JB on their phones already got it, one way or another. The rest don't care, or they would have already upgraded their phones.
iOS actually has the "reputation" of crippling the older hardware with their "upgrades". Remember when iOS 4 tanked so many iPhones 3G and 3GS? What used to be a nice and smooth experience suddenly became choppy, unresponsive, in some cases unusable. Then Apple wised up and instead of pushing the new OS, they pretty much changed the "about" section to say it runs the latest OS, even though was a crippled version, with a bunch of apps missing. One can do the same on any Android phone by editing a file.
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So many commenters on Tom's who know nothing about coding, it seems. Oh look, I can flash a custom ROM. I have leet skillz.
Android is a complete mess. Is there anyone here on Tom's who can argue that from a technical standpoint based on the architecture of the OS (vs iOS)? Or are you only capable of down voting or deflecting the issues by implying other OS's also suffer from fragmentation?
Android is a complete mess. Is there anyone here on Tom's who can argue that from a technical standpoint based on the architecture of the OS (vs iOS)? Or are you only capable of down voting or deflecting the issues by implying other OS's also suffer from fragmentation?
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[citation][nom]ericburnby[/nom]So many commenters on Tom's who know nothing about coding, it seems. Oh look, I can flash a custom ROM. I have leet skillz.Android is a complete mess. Is there anyone here on Tom's who can argue that from a technical standpoint based on the architecture of the OS (vs iOS)? Or are you only capable of down voting or deflecting the issues by implying other OS's also suffer from fragmentation?[/citation]
Obviously you don't understand mt argument, and you keep clinging to your old statement "Android is a mess".
My argument is that if you imply fragmentation=mess, then every other OS out there suffers from the same problem. Just because the label on an OS says latest version doesn't mean so, if that version is crippled in functionality on older devices, or even worse IMO, if it cripples older devices' functionality. Wrap your mind a bit around that.
You can flash a custom OS? Good for you. No need to tout that here.
Since you're a developer, please direct us to some of your apps on GPlay. Would love to try them out.
Meanwhile, stop twisting my statements here and have a nice day.
/argument
Obviously you don't understand mt argument, and you keep clinging to your old statement "Android is a mess".
My argument is that if you imply fragmentation=mess, then every other OS out there suffers from the same problem. Just because the label on an OS says latest version doesn't mean so, if that version is crippled in functionality on older devices, or even worse IMO, if it cripples older devices' functionality. Wrap your mind a bit around that.
You can flash a custom OS? Good for you. No need to tout that here.
Since you're a developer, please direct us to some of your apps on GPlay. Would love to try them out.
Meanwhile, stop twisting my statements here and have a nice day.
/argument
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