iPhone 5S Packs Apple A7 Chip: World's First 64-bit Phone

[lpedraja2002]

Wow an f stop of 2.2 and a large image sensor will probably make this the best low light(indoor) camera on any smartphone.

(Just because the nokia has 41MP doesn't means the pictures will look better, things such as lighting, color saturation etc...... Take part in making a great picture, 41MP just means you can take a crappy picture and make high resoltion crap).

Your second statement proves your writing without any merit whatsoever. If you bothered to read any review at all, you'll know that the lumia 1020 is considered the best smartphone camera, not including that freaky Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom.

 

[smnoamls]

This whole "Apple put 64 bit because phones will have more than 4gb soon" idea is bs.
The whole point is is that APPS will be able to use more than 4gb per app.
The os itself will be able to access more than 4gb (PAE style).
Now, the day our apps will use more than 4gb is a LONG way away.

 

[pckitty4427]

It'll be interesting to see how the A7 stacks up against Sammy's new Exynos 5 Octa.

 

[Vladislaus]

marketing scam. more bits = better.

LOL, marketing scam until Samsung comes out with a 64-bit chip and then you'll be like: OMG, gurrrrrl!!!

Please, at least be a little less transparent.

Moving to 64-bits is a good thing - especially since the Sammy Note 3 has 3GB of RAM, we're gonna hit the 4GB of RAM ceiling in a year or two...

What's the RAM on the Note 3? 3Gb! So when the next Samsunt top tier phone lands it will most likely have 4GB of RAM, so it will make sense using a 64-bit OS. Apple didn't even stated the RAM on the 5S so they aren't ridiculed. There's a lot of disadvantages in having a 64 bit OS, specially on a system where the RAM and user space is limited. Not only are the applications larger in space, the memory requirements are also increase because of larger pointers,...

 

[somebodyspecial]

Benchmarks please. 2x faster in what? Prove it.

 

[house70]

"Apple says the A7 in the iPhone 5S is twice as fast as the A6 in the iPhone 5 and 5C."
If Apple says so, it must be true... LOL.
Benchmarks? Whaaaa?.........Nah, take our word for it.

 

[mynith]

Wait, does this thing have more than 4 GB of RAM?

 

[Simon Hermansson]

Whats funny about all this, is that it's not even the first 64bit smart phone. Typical Apple marketing.

 

[game junky]

x64 in a mobile platform...weird. I will be interested to see it in action to see how much day to day benefit we get from that proc. I was actually hoping they would shoot for battery efficiency on their processor/OS optimizations this time around. Don't get me wrong, 10 hours is great but Exchange Active Sync combined with normal daily use means I charge every day. I am intrigued by the fingerprint scanner, but it isn't a game changer for me personally.

Kudos for bringing us new silicon, give me a little more battery life and a higher res screen next year Apple and I'll give you your 2 year allotment of my paycheck.

 

[Simon Hermansson]

Woops, forgot this: http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/huawei-ascend-d-quad-is-as-powerful-as-a-64-bit-pc-1066474

 

[Simon Hermansson]

Woops, forgot this: http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/huawei-ascend-d-quad-is-as-powerful-as-a-64-bit-pc-1066474

 

[teh_chem]

Wow an f stop of 2.2 and a large image sensor will probably make this the best low light(indoor) camera on any smartphone.

(Just because the nokia has 41MP doesn't means the pictures will look better, things such as lighting, color saturation etc...... Take part in making a great picture, 41MP just means you can take a crappy picture and make high resoltion crap).

Not true; Nokia does not implement their sensor to yield raw 41MP smartphone camera resolution for bragging rights; they actually make good use of the extra pixels for noise-reduction, over-sampling, and low-light enhancement (f-number and image size aren't the only important factor for low-light image quality). I would still state that there's no way this updated camera will hold a flame to the one in the 1020.

 

[smnoamls]

This whole "Apple put 64 bit because phones will have more than 4gb soon" idea is bs.
The whole point is is that APPS will be able to use more than 4gb per app.
The os itself will be able to access more than 4gb (PAE style).
Now, the day our apps will use more than 4gb is a LONG way away.

 

[sundragon]

marketing scam. more bits = better.

LOL, marketing scam until Samsung comes out with a 64-bit chip and then you'll be like: OMG, gurrrrrl!!!

Please, at least be a little less transparent.

Moving to 64-bits is a good thing - especially since the Sammy Note 3 has 3GB of RAM, we're gonna hit the 4GB of RAM ceiling in a year or two...

What's the RAM on the Note 3? 3Gb! So when the next Samsunt top tier phone lands it will most likely have 4GB of RAM, so it will make sense using a 64-bit OS. Apple didn't even stated the RAM on the 5S so they aren't ridiculed. There's a lot of disadvantages in having a 64 bit OS, specially on a system where the RAM and user space is limited. Not only are the applications larger in space, the memory requirements are also increase because of larger pointers,...

Oh, Vlad, I wonder if Sammy had brought out a 64-bit Exynos you'd be objecting so much 😉

I remember when people were crying about all the memory 64-bit programs would require and OMG, how awfully big everything would get and how we didn't need no stinking 64-bit or gigs of RAM... BWAHAHA


All these objections are old news - We've heard them before when we moved from 32 to 64 bits on the desktop. It's coming and honestly it should have happened on the Android front before iOS because as we both stated Samsung (and other products) are shipping with RAM that nearly hits the 32-bit ceiling today!

The rest of the excuses that applications are larger, and memory requirements increase are all moot as we've managed to get to 64-bit on the desktop (with a lot of pain) and the sky hasn't fallen. OH, the HUMANITY, LAARGER PROGRAMS AND MEMORY REQUIREMENTS... Which are all offset with by better ISAs =ARMv8 😉

Oh yeah, we'll see that (hopefully) with the next Exynos unless they plan on making a 16 core on the same A15 architecture.

The point is give them (Apple) credit - If Google's Android or Sammy's Exynos had been first to this, you'd be all HARD with love for Google, but finding issues with a good move makes all these excuses sound like whiny fanboy comments 🙁

I hope that Android hits 64-bit with 5.0, It will be fun when I replace my Nexus 7 2013 with a 2014. I also hope they fix the ridiculously broken updating system that requires manufactures to roll them out instead of Google. If M$ can do it on Windows running on a bazillion types of hardware, Google can do it for Android. If Google doesn't then Samsung is gonna bail on Android and launch Tizen 64-bit... No more Google love... OH NOES, SAD FACE... This is if Sammy hopefully made Tizen 64-bit.

Now go back to making fun of Apple, it suits ya

 

[Camikazi]

IT TAKES TIME TO PORT TO 64-BIT... You may be too young to remember the mess it was going from 32 bit CPUs and OSs to 64-BIT - I had a Pentium PRO (Yes I'm a dinosaur) which was slower on 32-bit instructions and faster on 64-bit - It was a strategy mistake as Intel thought it we would all be switching to 64-bit overnight and it took a while. The Pentium PRO was a dog on 32-bit programs and cheaper Pentiums ate it's lunch... Yeeeeears later, we're all using 64-bit and YAY

Your memory is failing you old timer, the Pentium Pro was never 64 bit, Intel went mainstream x64 with the Pentium 4 and before that only Itanium CPUs were x64 but not the same x64 we have now.

 

[robochump]

Meanwhile...Samsung is busy copying Dyson vacuums...

 

[house70]

Meanwhile...Samsung is busy copying Dyson vacuums...

...while Apple is over it's head trying to copy Android's features...

 

[cmi86]

iBull. I don't believe any of the hype about this thing, or anything apple for that fact. Drop it and then we will see it get crushed by the galaxy family like always.

Tree stump > your intelligence

Well apparently you have found the only 2 bachelors degree having cnc programming tree stump in the world. Apple lies through their effing teeth to market anything they produce, it's a fact. They always hype it up and hype it up and then it comes out and gets it's ass kicked by the competition... You might want to come to grips with it, I'm sure your parents are becoming very worried seeing a new slit on your wrist every time the new iphone drops.

 

[cmi86]

iBull. I don't believe any of the hype about this thing, or anything apple for that fact. Drop it and then we will see it get crushed by the galaxy family like always.

LMAO, how about figuring out what you "dropped" in your pampers, cupcake. When Sammy delivers a 64-bit chip, you're gonna be like OMG THE BESTEST.

At least try to be somewhat transparent, we'll get 64-bit Android sometime... Wait, not with 4.4 we're not, maybe 5.0 and then it will take 15 years to roll out... LMAO

It is quite blatantly obvious you are a trolling little i-boy but oh well, here we go. I am just going ff history, new i phone comes out, last gen galaxy is still better, new i phone-S comes out, new galaxy comes out to crush it. It happens every single generation so you might as well just get over it and stop trolling around tech forums making yourself look like a complete tool out for a e-fight, real tough guy. It's apple, custom marketed for wanna be pompus nose in the air d-bags and the tech illiterate, I'm sure you fit both bills squarely. Until then I'll keep my "sammy" and it will probably still be faster than any I-crap you will wait in line with your mom for 9 days to get you lil hands on. Walk on home boy.

 

[cmi86]

This thing is a cool step in a new direction for phones but as i stated in this thread and others, apple has a nasty habit of greatly exaggerating their performance claims, sometimes just blatantly lying outright as about 98% of their consumer base are very tech illiterate and wouldn't notice anyways. This is why I will wait till it drops and is reviewed and benched and all that.

 

[cmi86]

This thing is a cool step in a new direction for phones but as i stated in this thread and others, apple has a nasty habit of greatly exaggerating their performance claims, sometimes just blatantly lying outright as about 98% of their consumer base are very tech illiterate and wouldn't notice anyways. This is why I will wait till it drops and is reviewed and benched and all that to have any final opinion.

 

[okibrian]

Not that this new phone is everything all hoped for, but it's funny to see how many Droid lovers come here to start trolling over and over again. Tell me, if Samsung came out with a 64 bit phone would you not be running to sites like this to rub it into iOS lovers faces? It's OK, I know most will not answer that honestly. Instead you all come here to say how you don't really need it anyway and thumb down anyone who does not agree or join in with the little trolls. Funny how you all act like Apple fan boys just blindly follow (and some do I will admit), but by definition isn't that what an android does?

 

[sundragon]

IT TAKES TIME TO PORT TO 64-BIT... You may be too young to remember the mess it was going from 32 bit CPUs and OSs to 64-BIT - I had a Pentium PRO (Yes I'm a dinosaur) which was slower on 32-bit instructions and faster on 64-bit - It was a strategy mistake as Intel thought it we would all be switching to 64-bit overnight and it took a while. The Pentium PRO was a dog on 32-bit programs and cheaper Pentiums ate it's lunch... Yeeeeears later, we're all using 64-bit and YAY

Your memory is failing you old timer, the Pentium Pro was never 64 bit, Intel went mainstream x64 with the Pentium 4 and before that only Itanium CPUs were x64 but not the same x64 we have now.

Crap, you're right! Damned Pentium something or other.

The point is that it takes time to move everyone over to 64-bit.

BTW, Samsung just announced they'll have a 64-bit Exynos with their next chip launch...

 

[Camikazi]

Just a quick little thing but you do all realize that ARM released the 64 bit CPU less than 2 years ago right and you do know how long it takes to get it working how you want yes? Apple was just the first one to get it done since their release cycle means they get there first, the rest of the companies were planning on the same thing. None of this is Apples doing, no one is following them they are all following ARMs release cycles and nothing more. If ARM does not do it none of them will either, it's none of this Samsung following Apple or Apple following Samsung they are all following ARM.