Iron Clad sinks nuclear sub?

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That's right !
In a recent game the AI's Iron Clad sunk my Nuclear Sub,
I thought Nuclear Subs were "un-seeable" except by
1. Other subs
2. Aegis class ships.
Now since this was over the 2050 year level and I LOST
maybe the AI decided to change it's rules?
Xeno

 

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"Xeno Chauvin" <arfulbrank@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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> That's right !
> In a recent game the AI's Iron Clad sunk my Nuclear Sub,
> I thought Nuclear Subs were "un-seeable" except by
> 1. Other subs
> 2. Aegis class ships.
> Now since this was over the 2050 year level and I LOST
> maybe the AI decided to change it's rules?
> Xeno
>
If the AI has a unit which can see your sub and your sub is in it's range of
sight, then any of the AI's units which are in range can attack your sub as
long as it remains visible by the appropriate class ships... Once your sub
moves, or their aegis/sub moves on, other ships won't be able to see your
sub again.

Hope that's clear as mud....

 

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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:53:49 GMT, "Xeno Chauvin"
<arfulbrank@houston.rr.com> wrote:

>That's right !
>In a recent game the AI's Iron Clad sunk my Nuclear Sub,
>I thought Nuclear Subs were "un-seeable" except by
>1. Other subs
>2. Aegis class ships.
>Now since this was over the 2050 year level and I LOST
>maybe the AI decided to change it's rules?
>Xeno

All you have to do is bump into an invisible unit and you can attack
it. The AI tends to move around a lot so it is very possible that is
what they did. Being invisible doesn't mean one can run right through
you.

 

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In article <h6PYc.52464$v86.28015@fe2.texas.rr.com>, "Xeno Chauvin" <arfulbrank@houston.rr.com> wrote:
>That's right !
>In a recent game the AI's Iron Clad sunk my Nuclear Sub,
>I thought Nuclear Subs were "un-seeable" except by
>1. Other subs
>2. Aegis class ships.
>Now since this was over the 2050 year level and I LOST
>maybe the AI decided to change it's rules?

You can attack units you can't see. The AI's Ironclad may have blundered into
your Nuclear Sub. There is a bug In C3C (but fixed in PTW) where the AI will
always attack an invisble unit that it blunders into, basicly subs. This will
break peace treaties and alliances. The human gets an "are you sure" prompt.

Mike G

 

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mtg@cornellc.cit.stumbling.block.cornell.edu (Mike Garcia) wrote in message news:<ch0v4l$k4i$1@news01.cit.cornell.edu>...
> In article <h6PYc.52464$v86.28015@fe2.texas.rr.com>, "Xeno Chauvin" <arfulbrank@houston.rr.com> wrote:
> >That's right !
> >In a recent game the AI's Iron Clad sunk my Nuclear Sub,
> >I thought Nuclear Subs were "un-seeable" except by
> >1. Other subs
> >2. Aegis class ships.
> >Now since this was over the 2050 year level and I LOST
> >maybe the AI decided to change it's rules?
>
> You can attack units you can't see. The AI's Ironclad may have blundered into
> your Nuclear Sub. There is a bug In C3C (but fixed in PTW) where the AI will
> always attack an invisble unit that it blunders into, basicly subs. This will
> break peace treaties and alliances. The human gets an "are you sure" prompt.
>
> Mike G

More precisely, the AI always attacking invisible unit bug it wonders
into was in the Civ III Classic, was fixed by a patch in PTW, but
reintroduced in Conquests and still there. 🙁

This is why in the Middle Ages conquests lots of civs declare war
against the Arab civs after they get sufficent Assasins, usually with
the escort to a settler, yielding that Arab civ two free enslaved
workers. (AI seems to hit OCN around 9% and starts raizing captured
cities wihout resources leaving wholes for other AIs to try to fill.)

This invisible unit is less of an issue in the Japan conquest with the
detect invisible unit requiring fewer techs, athough too many of those
units around result in the AIs losing all their interstructure. (2 MP
with all as roads with that high defense makes an excelent pillager.)

Yes, in the standard game, it's just Subs & Nuke Subs that have
invisible unit flag. These units don't seem particularly popular for
the AI to build.