[SOLVED] Is 144hz really either no ghosting or no colors?

[D34THNOTE]

Hi

right off the bat I should mention that we're talking about monitors under $200

I want to get myself a 144hz monitor finally, and after doing a lot of researching I've come to a conclusion which I'm not sure if is right or not, that's why I'm here

Is it really either no ghosting or no rich colors, at least in this price range? BenQ ZOWIE XL2411P caught my eye the most I think but I read that it has some terrible colors, that was the main complaint people had on Amazon

Even though I do mostly play competitive games, be it CS:GO, BF1 or even World of Tanks from time to time, I can imagine that having nice colors is a pretty cool thing

So I guess my second question is, if you have it or had any experience with it, is the BenQ ZOWIE XL2411P good monitor for gaming?

Also, is there any sort of middle ground display in this price range, which won't have terrible ghosting giving you feeling of cheapness, but also having an above average color performance whatever it's called?

 

[Eximo]

Well, the ghosting they are talking about is primarily related to the pixel response times. TN panels have the best response time, and can have minimal ghosting. TN Panels do tend to have poor color reproduction, but that is only a matter of accuracy. You just won't experience the colors as intended by whoever picked them. Viewing angles are also quite poor on TN panels. Not a big deal if you only ever look at it straight on.

Only comparable technology in your price range would be some of the curved VA panels. I see a few out there with the same rough specs as the panel you are looking at for only $150.

I must confess I haven't really been keeping up with recent panel releases. The market is getting rather flooded with 'gaming' panels. A good thing I suppose, but when it comes to 144hz panels, there are now hundreds to choose from instead of a dozen. I've certainly not seen reviews on all of them.

Here is a VA panel that is relatively cheap. Has some okay reviews from the people who bought it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HBRzK8/aoc-c24g1-240-1920x1080-144-hz-monitor-c24g1

This got rtings.com seal of approval for a budget gaming monitor

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/g6RzK8/viewsonic-xg2402-240-1920x1080-144hz-monitor-xg2402

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/by-usage/gaming#recommendation_90965

I use them more for TV reviews, but the old source for good monitor reviews tftcentral has seemingly stopped reviewing things.

I suggest poking around on partpicker and looking at some more end user reviews. Keep in mind some of these people may be upgrading from older/smaller LCDs and these were a huge improvement.

 

[D34THNOTE]

Well, the ghosting they are talking about is primarily related to the pixel response times. TN panels have the best response time, and can have minimal ghosting. TN Panels do tend to have poor color reproduction, but that is only a matter of accuracy. You just won't experience the colors as intended by whoever picked them. Viewing angles are also quite poor on TN panels. Not a big deal if you only ever look at it straight on.

Only comparable technology in your price range would be some of the curved VA panels. I see a few out there with the same rough specs as the panel you are looking at for only $150.

I must confess I haven't really been keeping up with recent panel releases. The market is getting rather flooded with 'gaming' panels. A good thing I suppose, but when it comes to 144hz panels, there are now hundreds to choose from instead of a dozen. I've certainly not seen reviews on all of them.

Here is a VA panel that is relatively cheap. Has some okay reviews from the people who bought it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HBRzK8/aoc-c24g1-240-1920x1080-144-hz-monitor-c24g1

This got rtings.com seal of approval for a budget gaming monitor

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/g6RzK8/viewsonic-xg2402-240-1920x1080-144hz-monitor-xg2402

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/by-usage/gaming#recommendation_90965

I use them more for TV reviews, but the old source for good monitor reviews tftcentral has seemingly stopped reviewing things.

I suggest poking around on partpicker and looking at some more end user reviews. Keep in mind some of these people may be upgrading from older/smaller LCDs and these were a huge improvement.

I guess the important thing to remember is that specs given by company tend to be a bit.. boosted, so looking at a cetrain monitor requires quite some digging to maybe find out how bad/good it is

with that said, I'll check out the one you've proposed

 

[Glenwing]

The new AOC 24G2 would be an excellent option I think.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WVN6CWT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_un2SDbCNTZE9E
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/di716a/at_last_24g2u_review_by_pcmonitors/

 

[D34THNOTE]

BTW. I wanted VA display because it's supposed to have richer colors than TN, but whenever I look at a review of any of VA displays, among 1 star opinions at least 90% of them mention almost immediate dead pixels appearing, which is concerning at the very least

 

[Eximo]

I think the rise of some of these cheap monitors are the results of purchasing B grade panels. As long as it meets some definition of working, they'll ship them out.

99.997% fully functional still means over 60 pixels dead on a 1080p panel (And that is full pixels, not sub pixels) would still count as good. I vaguely recall that as Dell's dead pixel cutoff for honoring a warranty. Though they were usually pretty good about honoring it regardless.

I had a green sub pixel go out on my old samsung, hardly noticeable, even though it was pretty close to the center of the screen.

There were quite a few sub-$200 panels that I wouldn't mind trying out if I was in the market. Maybe see if any of them are available for sale where you can go take a look at them in person (pretty rare these days)

 

[D34THNOTE]

I think the rise of some of these cheap monitors are the results of purchasing B grade panels. As long as it meets some definition of working, they'll ship them out.

99.997% fully functional still means over 60 pixels dead on a 1080p panel (And that is full pixels, not sub pixels) would still count as good. I vaguely recall that as Dell's dead pixel cutoff for honoring a warranty. Though they were usually pretty good about honoring it regardless.

I had a green sub pixel go out on my old samsung, hardly noticeable, even though it was pretty close to the center of the screen.

There were quite a few sub-$200 panels that I wouldn't mind trying out if I was in the market. Maybe see if any of them are available for sale where you can go take a look at them in person (pretty rare these days)

I have to admit, I'm surprised that I've been doing my research for probably like 6 hours in total but I've never considered AOC C24G1, might even get C27G1 so essentially bigger version of it as so far reviews seem to be very positive