Info Is AMD working on a GPU they're calling "Nvidia Killer" ? NAVI 21 and NAVI 23 GPUs !

[Metal Messiah.]

Hello,

RedGamingTech posted an article, though take this with a grain of salt, as of now. Though, I still think this rumor can be TRUE, since we have already seen references of this before as well.

Anyways, is AMD really working a high-end NAVI GPU, because AMD's CEO, Lisa Su, already confirmed before that the company has "execution on those [products] are on track" when asked about high-end Navi and Zen 2 mobile hardware ??

We also know that RDNA 2 is coming in a 7nm+ manufacturing process. This is the same process which is set to be used to manufacture AMD's Zen 3 Milan processors, which are due in Mid-2020. With this in mind, it looks like RDNA 2 is coming in 2020, and rumour has it that AMD is internally calling these GPUs "Nvidia Killer".

This report comes via Red Gaming Tech, who claims that AMD's Lisa Su is "frustrated" and the fact that AMD has no products that target Nvidia's highest-end SKUs. With their next-generation of RDNA products, AMD's rumoured to be positioning itself to target Nvidia's market leadership.

Red Gaming Tech claims that AMD's "Nvidia killers" come in the form of Navi 21 and Navi 23. Their report also states that the company's first Radeon Navi cards released late due to Radeon's radically redesigned core architecture.

With their "Next Gen RDNA" graphics cards, AMD plans to enter the world of hybrid RAY TRACING. This shift will bring the company's graphics cards in line with Nvidia's RTX series, at least in terms of raytracing capabilities. This move will mark a time where Radeon will hope to have its own form of Ryzen Revival, leveraging RDNA's use in both next-generation console and their gaming-focused architectural changes to gain market share within the graphics market.

Also, I think the success of AMD's next-generation RDNA parts will depend on the strength of Nvidia's response. Nvidia's RTX 20 series currently dominates the high-end, despite using 12nm lithography. With their RTX 30 series, Nvidia has the option to utilise 7nm manufacturing to enable a significant performance/efficiency leap over their current-generation components.

IMO, if AMD plans to target Nvidia's market dominance in 2020, their next-generation RDNA graphics cards will need to be able to handle anything that Nvidia can throw at them. If Red Gaming Tech's report is accurate, AMD is very confident about Radeon's future. Regardless, AMD needs to be ambitious within the GPU market, as 2020 will also mark INTEL's entry into the discrete GPU market, a move which will give AMD a new competitor.

Give this a read:

Navi 20 Series is Known Internally As 'The Nvidia Killer' | EXCLUSIVE

AMD currently have an answer to Nvidia's mid-range offerings with their RX 5700 and RX 5700 XT graphics cards, and in the next few weeks, custom variants o

www.redgamingtech.com

 

[Metal Messiah.]

And not to mention if their new cards do trade blows, it'll only be at stock values and I don't think the AMD cards will overclock at all on the same level as NVIDIA

Especially if they can't get them to trade blows with a similar TDP and temps when under load.

I agree. Honestly speaking, I'm not sure whether AMD can easily compete with NVIDIA's high-end offerings even with the next-gen GPUs. NAVI was supposed to be a major leap in GPU architecture, and they used 7nm fab process node for these chips as well, but the performance could have better.

Even though Nvidia's latest TURING GPUs are fabbed on a 12nm process node, they are more power efficient and faster than AMD"s offerings.

Also, RTX 3000 series GPUs might come out next year, and these chips are going to be much more faster and efficient when compared to current TURING lineup, RTX series. So NVIDIA is still on top of the performance crown.

But the NAVI 5700/XT GPUs aren't bad either. Many custom AIB models are also coming out soon, and these chips should run cooler as well.

 

[Metal Messiah.]

Something Fresh. GURU3D posted this.

AMD 7341:00 - Radeon RX 570 Successor spotted?

In CompuBench a new AMD Radeon Device ID has been spotted. The new entry could be Navi 14, a product that is set to replace products like the Radeon RX 570. The product is paired with 8 gigabytes of graphics memory and would be a good notch faster in OpenCL.

It has been rumored that Navi 14 is either a Polaris respin or NAVI based replacement. Little is known though. The CompuBench entry carries the device ID AMD 7341: 00 and shows 8 gigabytes of graphics memory and might be an AMD answer to the GTX 1650 and GTX 1660. The card should have 1,536 shader units and clock with up to 1,900 megahertz.

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-734100-radeon-rx-570-successor-spotted.html

 

[Metal Messiah.]

Some more update on low-end NAVI GPUs.

AMD’s Navi 14 GPU which would be powering entry-tier Radeon RX graphics card has appeared on Compubench. Based on the 7nm RDNA architecture, the Navi 14 GPU would be replacing the entry tier Polaris lineup which includes the Radeon RX 560 series (Polaris 11/21).

AMD Navi 14 GPU Shows Up In Compubench, Features 24 CUs – Entry-Tier Radeon RX To Be On Par With Radeon RX 570.
From the looks of it, the Navi 14 GPU that has leaked out is aimed at entry-level Radeon RX cards with a focus on maximizing performance per dollar and efficiency.

The GPU in question seems to be configured with 24 CUs which rounds up to 1536 stream processors. It is codenamed GFX1012 which is the internal name for the Navi 14 GPU and has the “AMD 7340:CF” device ID. The chip is clocked at 1.9 GHz and is coupled with 3 GB of VRAM. There were also the previous entries which reported 8 GB and 4 GB so it looks like the cards will come in different VRAM configurations.

https://compubench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=compu20d&os=Windows&api=cl&D=AMD+7341:00&testgroup=info

https://compubench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=compu20d&os=Windows&api=cl&D=AMD+7340:C1&testgroup=info

https://compubench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=compu20d&os=Windows&api=cl&D=AMD+7340:CF&testgroup=info

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1166310860857307136

View: https://twitter.com/KOMACHI_ENSAKA/status/1166310860857307136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1166310860857307136&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwccftech.com%2Famd-navi-14-gpu-radeon-rx-graphics-card-performance-leak%2F

When it comes to the performance of this specific part, we see it slightly better than the Radeon RX 570 which is based on the Polaris 20 GPU. The Radeon RX 570 has long been a mainstream king for team red but looks like Navi 14 GPUs might finally replace them. The performance against the GTX parts such as the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 looks great but lacks against the much faster GeForce GTX 1660.

The Navi 14 based 3 GB Radeon RX cards seem to be of the lowest configuration so we can possibly expect it under the $150 US range. What’s surprising about all three variants is that they have the same core config of 24 CUs but have vastly different VRAM designs. It is possible that AMD can replace all three of their existing Polaris cards, the RX 570, RX 580 and RX 590 with these Navi 14 based products at much lower price points.

 

[AngelTech]

Nice job keeping us updated Metal!

 

[Metal Messiah.]

No probs. You are welcome.

 

[Metal Messiah.]

Some update. Not directly related, but this is actually for Consoles, but it ALSO applies to next-gen NAVI GPU architecture as well. That's why I'm sharing this.

Gears 5 Dev reveals "dedicated ray tracing cores" on Project Scarlett - Points to future Radeon graphics tech....

In a recent interview with GameSpot, Colin Penty, Gears 5's technical art director, revealed some new information about Microsoft's next-generation Xbox Console, Project Scarlett.

In this interview, Penty stated that "Having dedicated ray tracing cores is huge", confirming that Project Scarlett features dedicated ray tracing hardware. Given the fact that AMD has confirmed that they are working on hardware-accelerated ray tracing, it is likely that these ray tracing cores are a part of an AMD Radeon graphics component.

While Penty couldn't elaborate on Scarlett's specifications, his statement reconfirmed that Microsoft's next-generation Xbox would include dedicated ray tracing hardware. Beyond that, it also seems likely that AMD's next-generation RDNA graphics cards will also feature similar "ray tracing cores".

Below is Colin Penty's full statement regarding Xbox Scarlett.

"" We don’t have anything to announce right now in terms of Gears with the new hardware--but I’m definitely super excited about what the new hardware could do. Having dedicated ray tracing cores is huge. ""

I think Microsoft's Project Scarlett will be powered by AMD Zen 2 CPU cores and Radeon RDNA graphics hardware. The console is due to ship in holiday 2020, making it likely that we will see Radeon GPUs with similar ray tracing features within the same time frame, IMO.

Raytracing will prove to be a major feature of Microsoft's Project Scarlett console, though at this time it remains to be seen how developers will utilise the functionality. Sony's next-generation PlayStation is also likely to offer the same feature set, starting a new era of hybrid ray tracing with the next generation of consoles.

Gears 5 Dev Refused To Compromise On 60FPS Frame Rate

Gears of War 4 made a compromise with frame rate and resolution, but The Coalition refused to do that again with the new game.

www.gamespot.com