Is AMDZone full of Reality Deniers?

Is AMDZone full of Reality Deniers?

  • Yes

    Votes: 62 75.6%
  • No

    Votes: 20 24.4%

  • Total voters
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ElMoIsEviL

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http://www.amdzone.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=137052&start=175

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In any rate, I think we can all agree that Phenom II 965BE at $188 is a MUCH BETTER DEAL than any Core i5 or i7. You pay less to get better quality processors with AMD. If AMD set the price points like this, I trust them that they know what they are doing, and they will be responsible of their stock prices (which, apparently, is not going to $1 as you suggested).

scientia, your tests are really valuable because it demonstrates one important thing:
- Intel CPU OC is not just limited by thermal, but also by the intrinsic overclockability.
A corollary to that is
- there is no way for a Core i5/i7 to get undocumented high frequency with any good cooling.

kaa, IIRC, you were suggesting this with your Intellish propaganda?

But I have to say that even from 2.66GHz to 3GHz is very good overclocking.
from users such as Abinstein...

I would be inclined to say yes.

Have fun reading some of/if not the more idiotic statements found on the web.

More links:
http://scientiasblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/intel-i5-750-thermally-marginal-with.html
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=240180
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1035049030&posted=1#post1035049030
 

ElMoIsEviL

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My 4.4GHz Core i7 apparently does not exist.

And all you guys running Core i5 750s at near or over 4GHz... you don't exist. You're all part of a world wide conspiracy against AMD. Because according to Abinstein... "there is no way for a Core i5/i7 to get undocumented high frequency with any good cooling".
 

Mandrake_

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How do I OC my i7 920 to 4GHz? Enter BIOS, disable Turbo, Speedstep. Set CPU volt and Uncore volt to 1.25V. Set memory to 1.65V. Change BCLK from 133MHz to 200MHz. Done.

God that was bloody hard.
 

BohleyK

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The reality of a decision to buy AMD is that one didn't spend >$250 more for a benchmark standing or the same price for dead end platform.

Enjoy.
 

BohleyK

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The reality of a decision to buy AMD is that one didn't spend >$250 more for a benchmark standing or the same price for dead end platform.

Enjoy.
 

randomizer

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Damn, so that's why I couldn't do it. I just set BCLK :pt1cable:
 

$250 more? How do you figure?
 

ElMoIsEviL

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You didn't know that $149.99 USD for an i5 750 (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0317379) is $250 more?

LMAO
 

BohleyK

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Well if you decide on a 1366 than you are going to pay close to that over an AM3. It just wasn't worth it in my eyes.

As for AMDZone... I did lol
 

BohleyK

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Not everyone has a Microcenter in a reasonable distance.
 

randomizer

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Yes, let's compare platforms build for two different purposes. If you decide on LGA1366 then you have a use for 8 threads, you are rich, or you are stupid.
 

I'll grant you $200 more (i7-920 is ~$100 more than a PhII, mobo ~$100 more). That's not really the appropriate comparison though. You can get an 1156 setup for a lot less. Mobos are comparable, and the i5 is only ~$30 more even if you don't have a microcenter nearby (and it's cheaper if you do have a convenient microcenter). 1156 isn't dead either - it'll be getting 32 nm soon, and should be around for a while to come.
 

ElMoIsEviL

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Unless you're near a Microcenter.. where a Core i7 920 goes for $199.99USD: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0302727

But yes.. the motherboards are most expensive. As for LGA 1156.. the motherboards are about on par with Phenom II AM3 based boards.
 

BohleyK

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Wow. I'm sorry I must have lost the entire point of this thread. I thought it was siding with one manufacturer over another because some idiots posted something retarded on a completely biased forum.
 

ElMoIsEviL

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It's siding with the facts.

Fact is that Core i5 and Core i7 are the current superior products. Needs may dictate a differing purchasing decision though. Someone who simply games might be better off with a Phenom II X3 720 or X4 955 and someone on a budget might be better off with an Athlon II X2 or X4 processor.

It's not about siding with a manufacturer per-say. More like siding with the current superior product. AMDZone highlights delusional behavior of those who do side with a manufacturer rather than a product. They will grab at straws to retain their world view and even go as far as claiming a Global World Wide conspiracy is in order.
 

wickedsnow

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A bit off subject.... You don't need to live near a microcenter to get a core-i5 for $149. Frys electronics had a promo going all this last week for a i5+gigabyta something ud3r p55 mobo for $249. Pimp deal. I got 2 sets :)

Also, keep in mind that i5 vs i7 vs amd whatever is sometimes irrelevent. Because people like my best friends mother buy a 12 gig of ram + i7 + x1 gtx280 just to surf the web for faster flash games. lol (Seriously happened) I cried with laughter and anger. lol