Is GPU mining ruining my pc

[redge262]

I was wondering if mining was ruining my pc i was using nicehash about 9-12 hours a day and i started noticing that pubg started crashing a lot I never crashed until i started mining I have nvidia gtx 1060 3gb i5 7500 8gb crucial ddr4 1233 ram

 

[RememberThe5th]

It shouldn't i was using my R7 250 for 1 month mining (2GPU) and still performing normally.
Have you tried to reinstall drivers for gpu?

Unless you were mining for 5-6 Months.

 

[gasaraki]

Mining puts stress on your hardware components. If your hardware was on the borderline of stability due to age or crappy build, mining will put it over the edge.

 

[delaro]

Mostly you burn up our PSU and fans faster and void any warranty since manufactures don't want to cover mining.

 

[Zerk2012]

I was wondering if mining was ruining my pc i was using nicehash about 9-12 hours a day and i started noticing that pubg started crashing a lot I never crashed until i started mining I have nvidia gtx 1060 3gb i5 7500 8gb crucial ddr4 1233 ram

All PC parts are made to be used, as long as your temps are in the safe range your fine.

 

[TJ Hooker]

Have you overclocked your GPU?

As said above, the most stress is probably on the GPU fans, given they're running faster/more often if you're mining during time your PC would otherwise usually be off or idling.

 

[Zerk2012]

Mostly you burn up our PSU and fans faster and void any warranty since manufactures don't want to cover mining.

Not really their made to run and for the warranty they have no clue if you were minning or not.
Never seen a warranty that said VOID if your minning.

 

[TJ Hooker]

@Zerk2012
Apparently at least one manufacturer (PNY) is trying to exclude mining cards from qualifying for warranty.
https://www.pny.com/File%20Library/Support/PNY%20Products/Warranties/GeForce%20Graphics/3-Year-Limited-Warranty.pdf

Not sure how enforceable it is though.

I recently bought a couple cards for mining and the guy at the store said all cards used for mining are final sale, and that they have software (provided by Nvidia IIRC) they can run that can tell if the card has been used for mining. Could have just been bluffing though.

 

[delaro]

Mostly you burn up our PSU and fans faster and void any warranty since manufactures don't want to cover mining.

Not really their made to run and for the warranty they have no clue if you were minning or not.
Never seen a warranty that said VOID if your minning.

Actually for a OEM it is fairly easy to tell.
1. Flashed Bios " If your mining with a stock Bios your not doing it efficiently in fact your probably doing it quite poorly"
2. Type and Amount of Damage under a RMA, Component damage doesn't lie.
3. Stress test on the VRAM.."This is a big one here" There are very specific ranges a normally used card will be in, anything flashed and used 100% for hours on in will show a certain amount of degradation.
4. Performance feedback that can be access at a Bios level, this can be extracted and can give you a good clue on what the card was doing.

GPU's and CPU's also have clocks that have to be synced, which means there is also a way to record "Time on at different status". Mix a Time on function with a VRAM test and any self diagnostics that might have been added and you could tell that the card wasn't normally used.

So you really don't know what GPU suppliers are capable off since each card uses custom BIOS firmware with added feedback responses and hidden performance options.

 

[RememberThe5th]

Weird i never expect GPU to fail due "over-mining". Then my old PC which was suffering in summer with 90*C in case without ventilation would be dead long ago, has burn marks on rear I/O.
Until is proven i won't agree that mining is killing GPU, but thats like Random, components may fail due overusing but may continue to work like nothing happened. Soo basicly i agree and disagree hahahaha.

 

[TJ Hooker]

@delaro plenty of mining cards won't have been BIOS modded. In general, I don't think BIOS modding is a thing for Nvidia cards the way it is for AMD. For Nvidia, you would just adjust clocks/voltage with a software OC tool.

Other than BIOS modding, I don't think any of the other things you listed could prove the cards were mining. They could maybe prove the card was frequently under heavy use, but I don't see how they could determine what sort of use that was. Maybe the user spends a lot of time gaming, maybe they use the card for rendering for extended periods of time, or runs folding@home whenever the PC isn't in use.

Also depending on what you're mining ( especially eth), the cards may be underclocked and/or undervolted. So it's not as easy as just looking for cards that have been heavily overclocked and/or run at their limits.

I don't understand what you're saying with the "time on a different status" bit.

 

[delaro]

Weird i never expect GPU to fail due "over-mining". Then my old PC which was suffering in summer with 90*C in case without ventilation would be dead long ago, has burn marks on rear I/O.
Until is proven i won't agree that mining is killing GPU, but thats like Random, components may fail due overusing but may continue to work like nothing happened. Soo basicly i agree and disagree hahahaha.

Ebay is full of Dead GPU's from mining, unfortunately they still want a mint for something that is DOA, basically they attempted to RMA and got rejected. When you flash the BIOS to mine you are overriding all safety protocols and running voltages outside of what is recommended, I don't think I need to explain further that this will effect the life of the card.

@delaro plenty of mining cards won't have been BIOS modded. In general, I don't think BIOS modding is a thing for Nvidia cards the way it is for AMD. For Nvidia, you would just adjust clocks/voltage with a software OC tool.

Other than BIOS modding, I don't think any of the other things you listed could prove the cards were mining. They could maybe prove the card was frequently under heavy use, but I don't see how they could determine what sort of use that was. Maybe the user spends a lot of time gaming, maybe they use the card for rendering for extended periods of time, or runs folding@home whenever the PC isn't in use.

Also depending on what you're mining ( especially eth), the cards may be underclocked and/or undervolted. So it's not as easy as just looking for cards that have been heavily overclocked and/or run at their limits.

I don't understand what you're saying with the "time on a different status" bit.

NVIDIA restricts the bios by signing certified files, it has a validation stage that it Must pass. There is no current way to mod the bios and you have no clue what else is going on in it. If a sales rep says they have a way to track what the card does I would be inclined to believe it since your possible profiting and asking them to soak up the cost of fixing your GPU used outside of it's intended purpose. It's like buying a car and drag racing then trying to get the transmission fixed because you used it outside of the warranty, there are sings you can't see as a user but to a service tech they know right away.

 

[RememberThe5th]

Well changing voltage and doing bios mods is another pair of shoes.

 

[TJ Hooker]

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@delaro plenty of mining cards won't have been BIOS modded. In general, I don't think BIOS modding is a thing for Nvidia cards the way it is for AMD. For Nvidia, you would just adjust clocks/voltage with a software OC tool.

Other than BIOS modding, I don't think any of the other things you listed could prove the cards were mining. They could maybe prove the card was frequently under heavy use, but I don't see how they could determine what sort of use that was. Maybe the user spends a lot of time gaming, maybe they use the card for rendering for extended periods of time, or runs folding@home whenever the PC isn't in use.

Also depending on what you're mining ( especially eth), the cards may be underclocked and/or undervolted. So it's not as easy as just looking for cards that have been heavily overclocked and/or run at their limits.

I don't understand what you're saying with the "time on a different status" bit.

NVIDIA restricts the bios by signing certified files, it has a validation stage that it Must pass. There is no current way to mod the bios and you have no clue what else is going on in it. If a sales rep says they have a way to track what the card does I would be inclined to believe it since your possible profiting and asking them to soak up the cost of fixing your GPU used outside of it's intended purpose. It's like buying a car and drag racing then trying to get the transmission fixed because you used it outside of the warranty, there are sings you can't see as a user but to a service tech they know right away.

You're right, I don't know what else is going on in the BIOS, and neither do you. Maybe they do have a reliable way to tell if it's been used for mining, maybe not, but I don't think you should be saying definitively "for a OEM it is fairly easy to tell" when you don't actually know how and if that's true any more than the rest of us.

Regarding what the sales rep said to me, I really don't know if I believe it or not. He told me they had a tool provided by Nvidia that could tell if I had used the cards for mining, but I was buying AMD cards. If it's some special diagnostics embedded in the BIOS like you say, I'm skeptical Nvidia would make a tool that works with AMD cards. Like I said, it wouldn't surprise me if it was a bluff, along with any statements in manufacturer warranties that state that mining voids warranty. Similar to how it's not uncommon for companies to put unenforceable clauses in EULAs. They just put it in there hoping people will take it at face value and abide by it.

All that being said, I'm not saying they can't tell if a card has been used for mining, and I would definitely make sure I was willing to accept the possibility of loss of warranty before I start using card(s) for mining. I'm just playing devil's advocate and saying none of us really know to what extent the manufacturer is able to tell what a card has been used for.

 

[redge262]

It shouldn't i was using my R7 250 for 1 month mining (2GPU) and still performing normally.
Have you tried to reinstall drivers for gpu?

Unless you were mining for 5-6 Months.

 

[redge262]

It shouldn't i was using my R7 250 for 1 month mining (2GPU) and still performing normally.
Have you tried to reinstall drivers for gpu?

Unless you were mining for 5-6 Months.

 

[redge262]

Thanks guys for telling me this stuff i reinstalled drivers and stopped crashing