[SOLVED] Is it safe now? Worth updating?

[Oxicoi]

Hello.

I know there was a major problem that happened specifically with Ryzen CPU's with Windows 11 and I am aware that this has been "supposedly" fixed, however I'd like to hear from others.

Is it safe to update to Windows 11 now or should I honestly wait for the end date of Windows 10 support in the year 2025?

Obviously the latest is usually better in terms of availability, security, and many other features. Please let me know.

 

[Colif]

I have been on Win 11 since August using an R5 3600xt, 32gb ram & an X570 mb, and have not experienced any problems with it.

The differences aren't that big, mainly visual. There isn't any reason not to get it if your PC can run it now.

I doubt many here say to wait until 2025 to jump across, most suggest waiting a year but that is a little long too.
That goes with assumption it will take that long to fix, but MS seem to be releasing 2 Cumulative updates a month right now so it might not be long before most big problems are gone... and like I said, I haven't had any.

Microsoft are releasing patches and new features as they go so win 11 (like 10 before it) will never be finished so when you grab it is up to you.

 

[drea.drechsler]

Hello.

I know there was a major problem that happened specifically with Ryzen CPU's with Windows 11 and I am aware that this has been "supposedly" fixed, however I'd like to hear from others.

Is it safe to update to Windows 11 now or should I honestly wait for the end date of Windows 10 support in the year 2025?

Obviously the latest is usually better in terms of availability, security, and many other features. Please let me know.

The problems with USB port dropouts were experienced largely with Ryzen 5000 CPU's if I recall...AMD fixed it on their end with updated BIOS and maybe some updates from Microsoft. There was also performance issue but that also was fixed with changes both Microsoft and AMD distributed. So be on the latest BIOS for your board and as well chipset drivers from AMD and you're doubtless going to be OK.

But I disagree the changes are 'minor' even if they are mainly visual. It has to do with the user interface and it completely messed up the way I use Windows. The live tiles are gone, I used them to launch the applications and programs I use most frequently. But also the way to get to the list of applications is different and requires more clicks (it's right on the Windows/start button in Win10). Someone else has said it's an attempt by Microsoft to turn Windows into a phone OS more useful for touch screens than a keyboard/mouse...and with all it's idiosyncracies intact. I can't argue with that even though I don't use a cell phone for anything other than phone calls.

Several other changes also interfered with my daily routine and I realized I'd either have a lot of adjusting to do....or an order of magnitude more mouse moving and clicks on a daily basis. All I could foresee was more strain on the mouse wrist so back to Windows 10 I went. That was really quite easy and fairly painless: ironically, probably the best part of Windows 11 is the Revert to Windows 10 feature.

 

[Oxicoi]

The problems with USB port dropouts were experienced largely with Ryzen 5000 CPU's if I recall...AMD fixed it on their end with updated BIOS and maybe some updates from Microsoft. There was also performance issue but that also was fixed with changes both Microsoft and AMD distributed. So be on the latest BIOS for your board and as well chipset drivers from AMD and you're doubtless going to be OK.

But I disagree the changes are 'minor' even if they are mainly visual. It has to do with the user interface and it completely messed up the way I use Windows. The live tiles are gone, I used them to launch the applications and programs I use most frequently. But also the way to get to the list of applications is different and requires more clicks (it's right on the Windows/start button in Win10). Someone else has said it's an attempt by Microsoft to turn Windows into a phone OS more useful for touch screens than a keyboard/mouse...and with all it's idiosyncracies intact. I can't argue with that even though I don't use a cell phone for anything other than phone calls.

Several other changes also interfered with my daily routine and I realized I'd either have a lot of adjusting to do....or an order of magnitude more mouse moving and clicks on a daily basis. All I could foresee was more strain on the mouse wrist so back to Windows 10 I went. That was really quite easy and fairly painless: ironically, probably the best part of Windows 11 is the Revert to Windows 10 feature.

I mainly don't mind the visual palette that Windows 11 has to offer, but the thing you mentioned with where there are more clicks to get to certain actions are little things that annoy me the most. I can easily learn to get over that as it will take time to build that habit, but if Windows 11 is keen to being better than what Windows 10 could be, I am all for it.

I have been on Win 11 since August using an R5 3600xt, 32gb ram & an X570 mb, and have not experienced any problems with it.

The differences aren't that big, mainly visual. There isn't any reason not to get it if your PC can run it now.

I doubt many here say to wait until 2025 to jump across, most suggest waiting a year but that is a little long too.
That goes with assumption it will take that long to fix, but MS seem to be releasing 2 Cumulative updates a month right now so it might not be long before most big problems are gone... and like I said, I haven't had any.

Microsoft are releasing patches and new features as they go so win 11 (like 10 before it) will never be finished so when you grab it is up to you.

True in certain situations. I will have to give it a try again. I just hope it doesn't get too complicated like the beginning of Windows 10 with many many bugs and issues.

 

[drea.drechsler]

.... but if Windows 11 is keen to being better than what Windows 10 could be, I am all for it.
....

I think eventually it must end up "better"...that's because Windows 10 support ends entirely in 2025. Or planned to, at least. What's debateable is what "better" consists of, and I've not heard of anyone saying anything is yet.

But what surprised me most is how easily and quickly I went from Windows 10 to Windows 11....and then right back again. Very quickly, only one restart each time IIRC. Each way it was a lot faster/easier than feature updates have been, which generally take quite a while to install and a couple of restarts. And really no hiccups at all after going back to Windows 10, probably the most surprising.

What that suggests to me is the underpinnings, the basics of the OS, are very similar. Most likely identical: there's not a lot of changes needed when only really updating the user interface. That's why I'm not worried about missing out on anything for a while.

 

[USAFRet]

Of my several systems:

• 1 on Win 11. Built in the last 6 months, 100% compatible, Ryzen 5 5600X
• 1 Win 10, on the fence, in the sense that MS has not notified me that it is NOT Win 11 capable. Ryzen 5 3550H, prebuilt Beelink bought a year ago
• 1 WIn 10 probably capable. i5-8100
• All the rest absolutely NOT WIn 11 compatible, and will stay on Win 10.

I have no problem going back and forth between the main Win 11 system and the other Win 10 boxes.

Given a system that is known compatible with Win 11, there is little reason not to update.
Similarly, there is little reason TO update from 10 to 11.

But I'm not seeing any major inhibitors with Win 11.

 

[Colif]

But I disagree the changes are 'minor' even if they are mainly visual. It has to do with the user interface and it completely messed up the way I use Windows. The live tiles are gone, I used them to launch the applications and programs I use most frequently. But also the way to get to the list of applications is different and requires more clicks (it's right on the Windows/start button in Win10). Someone else has said it's an attempt by Microsoft to turn Windows into a phone OS more useful for touch screens than a keyboard/mouse...and with all it's idiosyncracies intact. I can't argue with that even though I don't use a cell phone for anything other than phone calls.

Guess it depends on how you use PC as to how much of an impact it makes.

We are all different, I hardly ever look(ed) in the start menu apart from turn PC off at night, but if you actually used tiles, then I can see it being a problem. Once I moved start to left, it was really hard for me to notice I wasn't on 10.


its possible that once they make the changes to start they have in pipeline that lets you reduce/expand the recommended field, you could just put shortcuts into the start that (although not as pretty as tiles), serve the same purpose as you had before.