Is it worth the upgrade? AMD fx 4130 to fx 6300

[spotie92]

The is my pc http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J9D4MVW/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=169IZGYC0ZGCU&coliid=I2ZE5H52TOQKQF&psc=1
It also has a asus gtx 960 GPU. I know the motherboard is kinda shitty but its the best i got right now. my euston is would it be worth upgrading the default processor (AMD fx 4130) to this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009O7YORK/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=169IZGYC0ZGCU&coliid=I2WR1LPSFGK95B

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

The is my pc http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J9D4MVW/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=169IZGYC0ZGCU&coliid=I2ZE5H52TOQKQF&psc=1
It also has a asus gtx 960 GPU. I know the motherboard is kinda shitty but its the best i got right now. my euston is would it be worth upgrading the default processor (AMD fx 4130) to this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009O7YU56/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=169IZGYC0ZGCU&coliid=I2UGO2D2WH4T84

That PC is not worth it and can't handle a 8320 due to the boards poor power and thermal design.

 

[spotie92]

The is my pc http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J9D4MVW/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=169IZGYC0ZGCU&coliid=I2ZE5H52TOQKQF&psc=1
It also has a asus gtx 960 GPU. I know the motherboard is kinda shitty but its the best i got right now. my euston is would it be worth upgrading the default processor (AMD fx 4130) to this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009O7YU56/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=169IZGYC0ZGCU&coliid=I2UGO2D2WH4T84

That PC is not worth it and can't handle a 8320 due to the boards poor power and thermal design.

I already have the pc and i aware of the limitations. my question is if upgrading to the fx 6300 with no intention overlock, and upgrade from quad core to 6 core would actually improve performance or if i should stick with the default one.

Oh sorry! i see what you mean! this was the one i meant http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009O7YORK/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=169IZGYC0ZGCU&coliid=I2WR1LPSFGK95B

 

[AngryNick]

Not worth it imo. You should save and get an i5 if you want a real improvement.

 

[cdrkf]

personally I'd invest in better cooling and a good quality psu, then overclock the quad core cpu.

The fx6 is good in some titles, but many don't make use of more than a couple of cores so you'd see no difference.

Overclocking the quad core would boost all games, and as its an fx, it's unlocked so really easy to tweak.

 

[bmacsys]

personally I'd invest in better cooling and a good quality psu, then overclock the quad core cpu.

The fx6 is good in some titles, but many don't make use of more than a couple of cores so you'd see no difference.

Overclocking the quad core would boost all games, and as its an fx, it's unlocked so really easy to tweak.

His motherboard doesn't have good enough mosfet or chokes to overclock a six core cpu. Or even run it at stock imho. As SR-71 stated.

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

The mother board can't run the 8320 ..Sorry.

 

[ComputerSecurityGuy]

Yes, buy a new AM3+ Motherboard. Here's a good one on sale below:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131872&cm_re=asus_m5a97-_-13-131-872-_-Product

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

Yes, buy a new AM3+ Motherboard. Here's a good one on sale below:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131872&cm_re=asus_m5a97-_-13-131-872-_-Product

That board is very poor has no heatsinks on the VRM's ^

 

[Paul17041993]

The existing motherboard should be able to run a FX-6300 just fine, as its a 95W processor, the minimum for AM3+, though it will be warmer.

On the option for motherboard replacement;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128651
is the most ideal for durability.
Also recommended the PSU be replaced;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119
for further system durability and stability.

Optionally you can use a non-stock CPU cooler;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186092
which should fit in the system just fine

 

[Turugar]

To answer your question no I would not recommend and upgrade to the fx-6300 your motherboard wouldn't support it. I took a quick look at the passmark scores for your CPU and other fx's and do to high TDP's I didn't find a good upgrade for your motherboard. I would not recommend a new CPU cooler as well because it may cause VRM failure. For now if you just have the $100 save up for a new am3+ board. I would recommend waiting a year or a little less for new intel chips, and possible new AMD chips (not for your board). If you want to stick with fx series I would buy this board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131851 (You will need thermal paste to put your cpu in). After youve gotten the board get an fx 6300 or 6350 $15 difference. Thats about as much money as id ever recommend you spend on old stuff.

 

[Paul17041993]

Air coolers do not affect the VRMs, in fact it increases cooling to them. Liquid cooling however does and as such its common to attach an extra fan or two to the VRM heatsink when overclocking under water, or just get a block for the mobo too if you have the budget (not valid for most closed-loop/AIO coolers though).

That ASUS board is not worth the premium either as the user in question doesn't intend on overclocking anyway?

The FX-6300 would give a bonus for its extra module (two cores), as such will increase multitask, efficiency (in common loads) and reduce/remove most game stutter. Games like BF4 will definitely take advantage of the extra cores, which scales as high as 8 cores and normally destroys a 4 core CPU. Other Mantle, DX12 and Vulkan titles will take further advantage.

Though I can agree that it could be a better option to wait for zen, but that's going to be about a year from now, of which I'd expect the user could have regained the spent money by then anyway.

 

[cdrkf]

personally I'd invest in better cooling and a good quality psu, then overclock the quad core cpu.

The fx6 is good in some titles, but many don't make use of more than a couple of cores so you'd see no difference.

Overclocking the quad core would boost all games, and as its an fx, it's unlocked so really easy to tweak.

His motherboard doesn't have good enough mosfet or chokes to overclock a six core cpu. Or even run it at stock imho. As SR-71 stated.

I'm not suggesting to overclock a 6 core fx. I'm suggesting to overclock his current FX 4130 instead.

FX cpu's are seriously easy to overclock, and having played around with this on budget boards- in reality overclock on most thigns as long as you don't go crazy. He could probably get it up to 4.3 ~ 4.4 ghz on that board with a decent cpu cooler and PSU, despite the crappy board 😛

The point is, a clock boost to his current cpu will benefit everything, whereas the extra module on the FX 6 is only useful in the most recent titles.

I agree with everyone btw that in an ideal situation he probably want's a better motherboard, however that starts to make things expensive (and if your going to get a new board & cpu, he'd be better off going Intel, for a tight budget I actually rate the Haswell i3's as they're keeping pace with the i5 thanks to HT being so much more effective due to the wider core).

 

[andre_888]

Hold up. If you upgrade to a 8320E, the performance in most games will be about equivalent as very few games are optimized to support more than 4 cores. If you are not gaming, and look only to improve application performance, go for the FX-8320E. You wont need to upgrade your power supply.
I have a A10-5800k paired with a R9-290X. In most cases my benchmarks and frame rates aren't much lower than those of the same video card paired with an i7-4770k.

 

[Alastair smith]

Well, it depends on what you will be doing with your PC. If you will use the AMD's Vishera FX 6300 for gaming then it's a yes from my side only if You are using Windows 10 as it has got a new API which can equally transfer the workload among all the 6 core thus making AMD's Vishera FX 6300 processor more efficient.

 

[cdrkf]

Well, it depends on what you will be doing with your PC. If you will use the AMD's Vishera FX 6300 for gaming then it's a yes from my side only if You are using Windows 10 as it has got a new API which can equally transfer the workload among all the 6 core thus making AMD's Vishera FX 6300 processor more efficient.

Well this is all rather theoretical at the moment (Windows 10, DX12 and Vulkan aren't out yet). I know there have been some promising tech demos and personally I'm hopeful that when it all hits my FX8320 will be able to keep up better, however most of the Mantle benchmarks still show Intel in the lead as they get a benefit from the updated API too.

 

[Turugar]

Air coolers do not affect the VRMs, in fact it increases cooling to them. Liquid cooling however does and as such its common to attach an extra fan or two to the VRM heatsink when overclocking under water, or just get a block for the mobo too if you have the budget (not valid for most closed-loop/AIO coolers though).

That ASUS board is not worth the premium either as the user in question doesn't intend on overclocking anyway?

The FX-6300 would give a bonus for its extra module (two cores), as such will increase multitask, efficiency (in common loads) and reduce/remove most game stutter. Games like BF4 will definitely take advantage of the extra cores, which scales as high as 8 cores and normally destroys a 4 core CPU. Other Mantle, DX12 and Vulkan titles will take further advantage.

Though I can agree that it could be a better option to wait for zen, but that's going to be about a year from now, of which I'd expect the user could have regained the spent money by then anyway.

An aftermarket cooler wouldn't directly cause vrm failure but the stock cooler generally has downward flow which will cool the vrms. If he were to buy a cooler that doesn't have a downward flow it could cause his vrms to heat up and fail because the board doesn't have vrm heatsinks.

 

[Alastair smith]

Well, it depends on what you will be doing with your PC. If you will use the AMD's Vishera FX 6300 for gaming then it's a yes from my side only if You are using Windows 10 as it has got a new API which can equally transfer the workload among all the 6 core thus making AMD's Vishera FX 6300 processor more efficient.

Well this is all rather theoretical at the moment (Windows 10, DX12 and Vulkan aren't out yet). I know there have been some promising tech demos and personally I'm hopeful that when it all hits my FX8320 will be able to keep up better, however most of the Mantle benchmarks still show Intel in the lead as they get a benefit from the updated API too.

No doubt, but we see it scoring high only in single threaded benchmarks or in a case were the first core is stressed. DX12 is about equally distributing the amount of workload among all the available cores( just up to 6 cores). So at the end of the day you may see a boost in the performance of your CPU which will be enough for gaming/video editing/regular working.