Is it worth upgrading my MSI H110M Pro-D motherboard & general motherboard help?

[beck.93]

Hi guys,

I got a gaming PC which I bought for some time ago, and I use to play Playerunkown's Battlegrounds

The PC consists of:
Motherboard: MSI H110M Pro-D
GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 1080ti
CPU: Intel I7-7700
Ram: Evo Forza 2x8gb 2400mhz
SSD: SAMSUNG 850 EVO 250GB

My question is, how can the motherboard improve the gaming performance, if it even can improve anything?

When I look at http://motherboardbenchmark.net/asrock-h110m-combo-g/ which is the best Motherboard with this chipset, that's similar to mine - I don't see anywhere that it is in any wat better than mine, other than what it says on the rating. Why is it better?

Also - What does the chipset do? and would I be able to upgrade to another chipset without replacing any part in my PC?

Thanks in advance

 

[velocityg4]

As long as you are getting full turbo boost speeds on your CPU. A new motherboard shouldn't make any difference in performance. Since your CPU doesn't support overclocking. Better motherboards just pack more extra features.

Chipsets along the same series just provide more built in technologies. Such as more memory slots, RAID, Intel SRT, more ports, more shared PCIe lanes and faster lanes (2.0 vs 3.0). There's more differences you can see here. Newer 200 series just have some new technologies added. None of which applies to your current needs.
https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2099-intel-chipset-comparison-z170-h170-h110

No, you can't replace a chipset. That entails replacing the motherboard. It may also require you to buy a new Windows license.

If you are having cooling issues effecting your max turbo boost. Then upgrade your case cooling and CPU cooler. Otherwise I wouldn't waste money on a new motherboard. I'd stick with what you have. Try to figure out where the issue is. Like upgrading to the latest BIOS and drivers.

If for some reason the motherboard can't handle full turbo boost speeds. Is the only reason I could see upgrading. I'm not aware of any issues with that board.

 

[beck.93]

As long as you are getting full turbo boost speeds on your CPU. A new motherboard shouldn't make any difference in performance. Since your CPU doesn't support overclocking. Better motherboards just pack more extra features.

Chipsets along the same series just provide more built in technologies. Such as more memory slots, RAID, Intel SRT, more ports, more shared PCIe lanes and faster lanes (2.0 vs 3.0). There's more differences you can see here. Newer 200 series just have some new technologies added. None of which applies to your current needs.
https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2099-intel-chipset-comparison-z170-h170-h110

No, you can't replace a chipset. That entails replacing the motherboard. It may also require you to buy a new Windows license.

If you are having cooling issues effecting your max turbo boost. Then upgrade your case cooling and CPU cooler. Otherwise I wouldn't waste money on a new motherboard. I'd stick with what you have. Try to figure out where the issue is. Like upgrading to the latest BIOS and drivers.

How do I know if i get the full turbo boost speed on my CPU?
Also, how do I know if the cooling is not good enough? Where can I see that, and how would you suggest I would increase the cooling most effecient, if that's the issue?

 

[velocityg4]

I'd run OCCT. Try stress testing with one, two, four and automatic or eight threads. Then watch the CPU frequency per core in the graphs. If the speed holds steady for 30+ minutes at each speed. Your cooling is keeping up. If it starts high then drops as temps climb. It's throttling and can't keep cool enough.

Max Turbo
- 1 Core 4.2Ghz
- 2/3 Core 4.1Ghz
- 4 Core 4Ghz

OCCT: http://www.ocbase.com/index.php/download

Turn off everything in the background you can. Like startup items for different software, anti-virus. They can make it difficult to get good results on single core tests. Since they may utilize more cores. If your BIOS supports it. You can also manually turn off cores. Then do an automatic test with each number of enabled cores. To see if it maintains full Turbo Boost.

 

[beck.93]

I'd run OCCT. Try stress testing with one, two, four and automatic or eight threads. Then watch the CPU frequency per core in the graphs. If the speed holds steady for 30+ minutes at each speed. Your cooling is keeping up. If it starts high then drops as temps climb. It's throttling and can't keep cool enough.

Max Turbo
- 1 Core 4.2Ghz
- 2/3 Core 4.1Ghz
- 4 Core 4Ghz

OCCT: http://www.ocbase.com/index.php/download

Turn off everything in the background you can. Like startup items for different software, anti-virus. They can make it difficult to get good results on single core tests. Since they may utilize more cores. If your BIOS supports it. You can also manually turn off cores. Then do an automatic test with each number of enabled cores. To see if it maintains full Turbo Boost.

Okay - I tried it and the test stops after a few minutes with "Core #1 oiver maximum value! Value Reached : 88, Max Value 85"
*What does that mean then, is it the cooling?

 

[velocityg4]

Sounds like your cooling system isn't keeping up.
- Clean out any dust inside case and on fans. Use compressed air. I normally use a toothpick or something similar when blowing off fans. So, they don't spin at extremely high RPM. Also do it outside so you don't get dust everywhere.
- Place PC in well ventilated space. Inside a desk or stuff crammed around it impedes air flow.

You can change the temperature limit in OCCT. Letting the system use it's own built in limits. Which it normally would. So, you can see if throttling kicks in. Which I think it will.

If that doesn't work. You can try reapplying the thermal paste. Using Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. Don't get confused and get Conductonaut. Conductonaut can cause damage if you don't know what you're doing. Kryonaut is safe.
https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Grizzly-Kryonaut-Grease-Paste/dp/B011F7W3LU/
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/How+to+Apply+Thermal+Paste/744

If that doesn't work or you just want to go ahead and upgrade your cooling. I'd get a Cryorig H7 for a replacement heatsink. Arctic F12 PWM PST are excellent case fans sold in a five fan value pack. They can also be bought individually. Note that you don't need the Kryonaut if you buy a new heatsink.

https://www.amazon.com/CRYORIG-Tower-Cooler-Intel-CPUs/dp/B00S7YA5FQ/
https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-F12-PWM-PST-Technology/dp/B00NTUJTAK/

Before buying new cooling components. Please post the make and model of your case. To verify these parts will fit. Usually they do but some cases are too small.

 

[beck.93]

Sounds like your cooling system isn't keeping up.
- Clean out any dust inside case and on fans. Use compressed air. I normally use a toothpick or something similar when blowing off fans. So, they don't spin at extremely high RPM. Also do it outside so you don't get dust everywhere.
- Place PC in well ventilated space. Inside a desk or stuff crammed around it impedes air flow.

You can change the temperature limit in OCCT. Letting the system use it's own built in limits. Which it normally would. So, you can see if throttling kicks in. Which I think it will.

If that doesn't work. You can try reapplying the thermal paste. Using Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. Don't get confused and get Conductonaut. Conductonaut can cause damage if you don't know what you're doing. Kryonaut is safe.
https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Grizzly-Kryonaut-Grease-Paste/dp/B011F7W3LU/
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/How+to+Apply+Thermal+Paste/744

If that doesn't work or you just want to go ahead and upgrade your cooling. I'd get a Cryorig H7 for a replacement heatsink. Arctic F12 PWM PST are excellent case fans sold in a five fan value pack. They can also be bought individually. Note that you don't need the Kryonaut if you buy a new heatsink.

https://www.amazon.com/CRYORIG-Tower-Cooler-Intel-CPUs/dp/B00S7YA5FQ/
https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-F12-PWM-PST-Technology/dp/B00NTUJTAK/

Before buying new cooling components. Please post the make and model of your case. To verify these parts will fit. Usually they do but some cases are too small.

This is the link for the PC I bought, only change is that I put the SSD iinstead of the hdd
Sould I buy a new one, I don't think it's big enough tbh. Also one of the blades doesn't work, since it's attached to one of the old HDD power sticks. I have nowhere to attach it

http://allegro.pl/showitem/description/6826512581.html?snapshot=MjAxNy0wOC0wNFQxMzo0NzoyNy4xNzFaO2J1eWVyO2RmODBlOGM0MmM0ZDA1NWZiZDZlZmFjZmVmNGY0MmZjYTljOWY2YWVmMjEwN2EyYzY2ZGVjM2RmNTY1Yzk3OGI=

 

[velocityg4]

I couldn't say for certain if that heatsink would fit. The Cryorig H7 requires 145mm internal clearance and the case is listed as 208mm wide. It would most likely fit. If you want to play it safe. You can use a Cryorig C7 instead. It's not quite as good as the H7 but far better than a stock Intel heatink or whatever cheap unit they used. The C7 does have one advantage over the H7. The downward design helps cool the motherboard. Noctua also makes great down facing fans.

The case fans I listed should mount fine in the front and rear. I'd open the case and see if it can handle one or two in the front. The Arctic aren't LED. If you want an LED fan. I'd look at a Corsair ML120 Pro, Corsair SP120 or Thermaltake Riing 12 to replace the built in fans. I'd just remove the side fan. It doesn't do much.

Be sure the fans are pointed the correct direction when you mount them. They have an arrow on the sides indicating direction of air flow. Front/Bottom/Sides should be intakes. Top/Rear should be exhaust.