Is it worth waiting for the next gen CPU?

[siddharthmukul007]

Is it worthwhile waiting for the release of the upcoming gpu s of AMD or Nvidia.

I am currently running a HD6850 and i am in no hurry to upgrade provided it is worth the wait.

 

[alvine]

yes i would wait. more performance for your money

 

[ASHISH65]

yes waiting for new series is always worthwile.

 

[getochkn]

It's also worth getting your title correct and saying GPU, not CPU. 😛

 

[siddharthmukul007]

It's also worth getting your title correct and saying GPU, not CPU. 😛

sorry for that typo 🙁

 

[siddharthmukul007]

i truly can wait....was just thinking if the performance upgrade is like the difference between the 2nd gen core i series and the 3rd gen core i series, or the FX series and the phenom II...then what?

 

[sam_p_lay]

i truly can wait....was just thinking if the performance upgrade is like the difference between the 2nd gen core i series and the 3rd gen core i series, or the FX series and the phenom II...then what?

If Ivy vs Sandy, it simply means you didn't get much for waiting, but you didn't lose anything. And when Bulldozer launched, people were still able to buy Phenom IIs instead ;-)

It would be silly to wait for Radeon 8000s and not GTX700s. Even the most devoted AMD-fanboy who has already decided for a fact they won't buy GTX700 should still wait for it for the sake of competition to drive down Radeon 8000 prices. Radeon 7000s were way overpriced before GTX600s launched. The 7970 especially.

 

[siddharthmukul007]

i seriously hope the fate of @bigmack does not occur to me 😉

 

[sam_p_lay]

My wallet is still crying from that... [url]http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sex012.gif[/url]

Let that be a lesson to you all!

Looking at GTX670 launch prices, nothing much has changed there (maybe because the competition was already there) so probably wouldn't be much to be gained from waiting ages after GTX700 launch. For that reason, I'll probably just grab one ASAP. Money saved by waiting will likely be insignificant. That said, it'll probably be the exception this time 🙂

 

[siddharthmukul007]

If Ivy vs Sandy, it simply means you didn't get much for waiting, but you didn't lose anything. And when Bulldozer launched, people were still able to buy Phenom IIs instead ;-)

It would be silly to wait for Radeon 8000s and not GTX700s. Even the most devoted AMD-fanboy who has already decided for a fact they won't buy GTX700 should still wait for it for the sake of competition to drive down Radeon 8000 prices. Radeon 7000s were way overpriced before GTX600s launched. The 7970 especially.

yeah that overprice was basically because of the new 28nm manufacturing process i think

 

[siddharthmukul007]

by waiting....we in india gain a lot actually.

the price of gtx690 is around $1270 now from its initial which was around $1360

 

[ittimjones]

i truly can wait....was just thinking if the performance upgrade is like the difference between the 2nd gen core i series and the 3rd gen core i series, or the FX series and the phenom II...then what?

That difference was nearly all a manufacturing architecture shrink. The only real improvements were in power savings. Performance wise, there wasn't much at all... Actually, there was worse performance if I recall correctly, because at the beginning the 3rd gen i-series CPU's had crappy thermal past under the heat spreaders that prevented OC'ing even as high as the 2nd gen i-series. That made them slower after OC.

 

[wdmfiber]

My wallet is still crying from that... [url]http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sex012.gif[/url]

Ya, but that GPU has been out for a year now. How long have you been enjoying the power? Plus your be good till 2014 or later. The nVidia 700's and Radeon 8000's are just going to be a refresh. Same 28nm tech, so minimal preformance gains.

But waiting for tech has aways been foolish, there is aways something better coming. But that said, waiting till there is quantity of a product available and the subsequent price drop that follows... or an actual sale, can be worth while.

7970, nice GPU by the way.
And the same for the competition too, GTX 680.

 

[siddharthmukul007]

That difference was nearly all a manufacturing architecture shrink. The only real improvements were in power savings. Performance wise, there wasn't much at all... Actually, there was worse performance if I recall correctly, because at the beginning the 3rd gen i-series CPU's had crappy thermal past under the heat spreaders that prevented OC'ing even as high as the 2nd gen i-series. That made them slower after OC.

yes even i do remember that...people use to say the 3rd gens get hot too quickly....blah.blah blah......
many even blamed the new 22nm manufacturing process for that.

 

[siddharthmukul007]

actually i even had that in my mind...what if the next releases becomes a mere shameless refresh @wdmfiber....like the hd6xxx series.


not to mention i am using one 😉

 

[wdmfiber]

actually i even had that in my mind...what if the next releases becomes a mere shameless refresh @wdmfiber....like the hd6xxx series.


not to mention i am using one 😉

Ya, the codeword for the 8000 series is "sea isalands", you can research info about it. You could call it as "shameless refresh", lol. AMD was suppose to start the release in March, but there is so much inventory sitting around they pushed the date back. Maybe summer? No one knows for sure.

"Volcanic Islands" will be the 9000 series. And it will be a real performance update. But it's a while away - sometime in 2014, hopefully.

"Maxwell" is the competing GPU line from nVidia.

 

[goldsauce]

I am currently running a single 7850 but since the prices for 7850s have dropped I will be getting my second 7850 today which for the money is much better value than waiting for 8xxx series because 7850 perform better than 7970 when the 7850s are crossfired and is better than waiting to buy a 8850 or 8830 because those both will cost more and will perform worse.

 

[sam_p_lay]

To be fair, nobody knows how they'll perform, unless somebody here has a working crystal ball. We can't see the future, so let's wait until some benchmarks are out before reviewing them.

 

[siddharthmukul007]

well said @sam...there are always too many "would be s"when it comes to any upcoming release.
all we can do now is keep our fingers crossed.

 

[determinologyz]

I think waiting a few months for the 700 series to drop would be a better option. This way you know whats out there and you have a choice of going 700 or 600 and if you choose to go 600 due to the specs not being the way you want from 700 thats cool but atleast you know. But i do believe the 700 will be a improvement more so then the specs barely being better then the 600 series

 

[siddharthmukul007]

yes its just hope for now...

 

[sam_p_lay]

I don't think we'll be disappointed. Based on previous gen gains, 35-40% on GTX780 (over GTX680) and 30-35% on GTX770 (over GTX670) are quite likely. Could be anywhere from 15% though, we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[determinologyz]

I don't think we'll be disappointed. Based on previous gen gains, 35-40% on GTX780 (over GTX680) and 30-35% on GTX770 (over GTX670) are quite likely. Could be anywhere from 15% though, we'll just have to wait and see.

That would be sick. I have the 660ti so my options is the 780 or the 770

 

[sam_p_lay]

I think GTX770 will be the way to go. Based on the GTX670, GTX570, GTX470, GTX275. Biggest gain on any x80 over x70 in those ranges was the GTX480 over the GTX470 (typically 20-25% gain). For the others ranges, much less. Yet typically a price premium of 100 or more for that tiny gain.

 

[determinologyz]

I think GTX770 will be the way to go. Based on the GTX670, GTX570, GTX470, GTX275. Biggest gain on any x80 over x70 in those ranges was the GTX480 over the GTX470 (typically 20-25% gain). For the others ranges, much less. Yet typically a price premium of 100 or more for that tiny gain.

Good info im most def going to look into it when it comes out bro