Question Is my cooling sufficient for new build?

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Hi All,
I'm pretty new to the world of custom PC's and I'm building a new workstation for remote vfx that's looking quite expensive. I want to make sure the cooling, in particular, is looking good - last thing I want to do is fry something. there is a warranty for the build, but I'd still like some outside input. any thoughts, cooling or otherwise, is appreciated.
It's been recommended to me that I avoid liquid cooling(by a buddy)... I'm not dead set on that it does seem a bit safer to not have it... but I'm new to this...

Cougar MX330-X Black Mid Tower ATX Case , Front USB 3.0
Dual Case Fans 120 mm Extra Quiet DC fan (two fans)
AMD RYZEN 9 7950X3D 16-Core 4.2GHz (5.7 GHz Turbo)
Noctua NH-D15 chromax.Black, Premium CPU Cooler with 2x NF-A15 PWM 140mm Fans
Gigabyte B650M DS3H AM5, DDR5, USB 3.2, USB-C, 2.5GB LAN
MEMORY DDR5 128GB (4x32GB) PC5-38400/4800MHz Quad Channel
GeForce RTX 4090 24GB PCI EXpress 4.0, up to 4 monitors, HDMI+ 3 display port
2 x 1TB SAMSUNG 980 m.2 Solid State Drive,NVMe PCI-Express 3.0, 3500MB/s
2 x 1TB SSD Samsung 870 Series Solid State Drive, SATA3 6.0Gb/s, 560MBs
Realtek HD digital audio (onboard)
Ethernet network adapter 10/100/1000 (onboard)
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000W GQ, 80 Plus Gold, Extra Quiet Modular Power Supply
 

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Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

Might I ask what other cases you have access to? I mean for 2023 and for the amount of money you're spending on the entire rig(sans the case) is up there...so your build could use a treat with a higher quality case.

I'd look into a Fractal chassis, if I were you.

As for your thread's question, the cooler is good to go, though to keep you informed, the case will not accept that cooler;
155mm clearance max
is 165mm, though you could get away with adjusting the fans lower on the heatsink, then again it'll impede the ram slots.
 
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Morning all, I'm building a vfx workstation for Houdini + maya, w/ redshift and I am looking for some sanity checks. I know that I could get away with less power in this machine... but being that this is for remote vfx work, I'm trying to put my best foot forward. To that end, I'm happy with the 7950x(debating about the 3d) and the 4090... but I'd love some other eyes on the motherboard, cooling, power supply, storage, and case, etc...

Many thanks.

**note: I posted something similar in the cooling section. apologies if that's a no-no double post. let me know and I can remove that.


Cougar MX330-X Black Mid Tower ATX Case , Front USB 3.0
Dual Case Fans 120 mm Extra Quiet DC fan (two fans)
AMD RYZEN 9 7950X3D 16-Core 4.2GHz (5.7 GHz Turbo)
Noctua NH-D15 chromax.Black, Premium CPU Cooler with 2x NF-A15 PWM 140mm Fans
Gigabyte B650M DS3H AM5, DDR5, USB 3.2, USB-C, 2.5GB LAN

MEMORY DDR5 128GB (4x32GB) PC5-38400/4800MHz Quad Channel
GeForce RTX 4090 24GB PCI EXpress 4.0, up to 4 monitors, HDMI+ 3 display port
2 x 1TB SAMSUNG 980 m.2 Solid State Drive,NVMe PCI-Express 3.0, 3500MB/s
2 x 1TB SSD Samsung 870 Series Solid State Drive, SATA3 6.0Gb/s, 560MBs

Realtek HD digital audio (onboard)
Ethernet network adapter 10/100/1000 (onboard)
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000W GQ, 80 Plus Gold, Extra Quiet Modular Power Supply
 
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Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

Might I ask what other cases you have access to? I mean for 2023 and for the amount of money you're spending on he entire rig(sans the case) is up there...so your build could use a treat with a higher quality case.

I'd look into a Fractal chassis, if I were you.

As for your thread's question, the cooler is good to go, though to keep you informed, the case will not accept that cooler;
155mm clearance max
is 165mm, though you could get away with adjusting the fans lower on the heatsink, then again it'll impede the ram slots.
oh! thanks for pointing that out. I was initially looking at the fractal cases but was swayed by some negative reviews. I think the funky RGB one below could fit it, if I understand correctly, but I'm def not the RGB/glass case kind of guy... the pop silent may still be too small.

Fractal Design Pop Silent Black, with Sound Damped Solid Panel
Fractal Design Torrent Compact RGB, Tempered Glass

thank you for your input.
 
Hey there,

You might also consider a different PSU. Although the GQ are quite decent, they are a bit dated now, and semi modular.

I'd pop an Corsair RM1000x, which is also known to manage transient power spikes which are high for the 4090. Can be up to or beyond spikes of 550-650w alone during the spike.

Rest of build is a good match. Some others will have options to consider too. Leave the thread open for a while.

Edit: Also, your storage is a bit on the slower side. Great drives, but using PCIe 3. Your mobo and CPU support PCIe4.

Your mobo is also on the light side in terms of VRM's for your CPU choice. Maybe an X670.
 
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Hey there,

You might also consider a different PSU. Although the GQ are quite decent, they are a bit dated now, and semi modular.

I'd pop an Corsair RM1000x, which is also known to manage transient power spikes which are high for the 4090. Can be up to or beyond spikes of 550-650w alone during the spike.

Rest of build is a good match. Some others will have options to consider too. Leave the thread open for a while.
Appreciate the note. I have limited options with this build, unfortunately. any recommendations between these PSU's?
- Enermax Lepa Maxbron 1000W Semi Modular ultra quiet ATX Power Supply (6+2pin)x6
- Rosewill SMG 1200, 80+ Gold Certified, 1200W Fully Modular Power Supply 2x(6+2)
- Thermaltake Toughpower Grand TPG-1200M 1200W GOLD Certified Full Modular SLI & X-fire Certified Active PFC
- (current)EVGA SuperNOVA 1000W GQ, 80 Plus Gold, Extra Quiet Modular Power Supply
 
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In that case, you are a bit snookered. Now, I'm not an expert on PSU's. I research them myself when troubleshooting.

The Toughpower seems decent: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermaltake-toughpower-grand-rgb-1200w-platinum-psu,5346.html

The EVGA is possibly the best out of that bunch. But all of them are older design types. They may not hold up well with the 4090 power spikes.
interesting. they seems to be somewhat receptive to custom components. I can ask them about it. sounds like you would recommend the corsair-rmx-series-rm1000x... I'll see what they say. thank you!
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The Corsair RMX are superb. Really good quality, and will last 7-10 years (warrantied). You really can't go far wrong with them.

Yes, see what they say.

There are other good PSU to consider. Corsair RMX/RMi/RM/TXM are all very good. You have newer EVGA models like the G6, which is another good one. Also SuperFlower Leadex. With such a system as yours, you want a strong PSU to manage your system.
 
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The Corsair RMX are superb. Really good quality, and will last 7-10 years (warrantied). You really can't go far wrong with them.

Yes, see what they say.

There are other good PSU to consider. Corsair RMX/RMi/RM/TXM are all very good. You have newer EVGA models like the G6, which is another good one. Also SuperFlower Leadex. With such a system as yours, you want a strong PSU to manage your system.
apparently they do offer the Corsair RMX but it wasn't enabled. it is now and I'm looking into it. thanks for the help!!
 
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oh! thanks for pointing that out. I was initially looking at the fractal cases but was swayed by some negative reviews. I think the funky RGB one below could fit it, if I understand correctly, but I'm def not the RGB/glass case kind of guy... the pop silent may still be too small.

Fractal Design Pop Silent Black, with Sound Damped Solid Panel
Fractal Design Torrent Compact RGB, Tempered Glass

thank you for your input.
This case has everything you want. Its big enough for all the parts, has no glass, has no RGB, and also has a mesh front for good cooling.
 
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EVGA SuperNOVA 1000W GQ, 80 Plus Gold, Extra Quiet Modular Power Supply

Your system is similar to mine... same CPU, GPU and cooler.

PCPP told me my estimated wattage was around 900... so I went with a 1300W unit from EVGA to have some breathing room with potential 4090 spikes.

This case has everything you want. Its big enough for all the parts, has no glass, has no RGB, and also has a mesh front for good cooling.

I agree. The Meshify S2 was the case for my previous build. I think it's the older version of that case. It was the original case for the new build until I broke the tempered glass and couldn't find a replacement anywhere due to the case being EOL and the new one was incompatible for replacement glass.
 
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This case has everything you want. Its big enough for all the parts, has no glass, has no RGB, and also has a mesh front for good cooling.
nice. appreciate the suggestion. I'll have to ask if they can accomodate that. In the meantime, I found a non-glass. all steal version of this that seems ok. I "think" it can fit the fans.

 
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Your system is similar to mine... same CPU, GPU and cooler.

PCPP told me my estimated wattage was around 900... so I went with a 1300W unit from EVGA to have some breathing room with potential 4090 spikes.



I agree. The Meshify S2 was the case for my previous build. I think it's the older version of that case. It was the original case for the new build until I broke the tempered glass and couldn't find a replacement anywhere due to the case being EOL and the new one was incompatible for replacement glass.
Glad to hear your input. yeah. I got a range of 900-1100 from newEgg, I think. the place I'm talking to seems to think that 1000w should be enough for this rig. In all honesty, I don't really understand the power spikes/needs of the 4090... I'll have to read a bit on that. thank you
 
nice. appreciate the suggestion. I'll have to ask if they can accomodate that. In the meantime, I found a non-glass. all steal version of this that seems ok. I "think" it can fit the fans.

I would also highly recommend getting a better motherboard if possible. The VRMs on that one are not meant for the flagship CPU to be at 100% for any long period of time. Most b650e, x670, and x670e motherboard will do the trick.
 
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update#1 -
still need to research 4090 power spikes and TBD on cases
appreciate all the help so far!!!


Fractal Design Torrent Compact RGB, Tempered Glass , High-Airflow front USB 3.0 (no DVD bay)
Dual Case Fans 120 mm Extra Quiet DC fan (two fans)
AMD RYZEN 9 7950X3D 16-Core 4.2GHz (5.7 GHz Turbo)
Noctua NH-D15 chromax.Black, Premium CPU Cooler with 2x NF-A15 PWM 140mm Fans
ASRock X670E PRO RS AM5, DDR5, USB 3.2, USB-C, 2.5GB LAN, WiFi 6E, Bluetooth 5.2
MEMORY DDR5 128GB (4x32GB) PC5-38400/4800MHz Quad Channel
GeForce RTX 4090 24GB PCI EXpress 4.0, up to 4 monitors, HDMI+ 3 display port
2 x 1TB SAMSUNG 980 PRO m.2 Solid State Drive, PCI-Express 4.0, 7000MB/s
2 x 1TB SSD Samsung 870 Series Solid State Drive, SATA3 6.0Gb/s, 560MBs
Realtek HD digital audio (onboard)
Ethernet network adapter 10/100/1000 (onboard)
Corsair RM1000x 1000W ultra quiet Full Modular Power Supply GOLD Certified
 
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This is basically what you have listed in the original post.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor ($669.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($119.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650M DS3H Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial CT2K32G48C40U5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-4800 CL40 Memory ($160.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial CT2K32G48C40U5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-4800 CL40 Memory ($160.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 870 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 870 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Samsung 980 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($2099.98 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Torrent Compact ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA 1000 GQ 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($329.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $4064.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-12 14:59 EDT-0400


This is what the recommendations in this thread would look like.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor ($669.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($119.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X670 AORUS ELITE AX (rev. 1.0) ATX AM5 Motherboard ($224.00 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial CT2K32G48C40U5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-4800 CL40 Memory ($160.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial CT2K32G48C40U5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-4800 CL40 Memory ($160.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($399.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($2099.98 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($159.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($178.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $4283.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-12 15:04 EDT-0400
 
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This is basically what you have listed in the original post.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor ($669.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($119.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650M DS3H Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial CT2K32G48C40U5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-4800 CL40 Memory ($160.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial CT2K32G48C40U5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-4800 CL40 Memory ($160.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 870 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 870 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Samsung 980 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($2099.98 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Torrent Compact ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA 1000 GQ 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($329.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $4064.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-12 14:59 EDT-0400


This is what the recommendations in this thread would look like.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor ($669.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($119.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X670 AORUS ELITE AX (rev. 1.0) ATX AM5 Motherboard ($224.00 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial CT2K32G48C40U5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-4800 CL40 Memory ($160.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial CT2K32G48C40U5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-4800 CL40 Memory ($160.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($399.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: NVIDIA Founders Edition GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($2099.98 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($159.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($178.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $4283.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-05-12 15:04 EDT-0400
wow! really helpful to see it all like that. thank you!
FWIW, the 2 NVMe drives are intended to be dual boot drives, each having a 1 tb data drive. eventually i'll need to look into more storage, but I'm not there yet.

are the separate case fans overkill? "Dual Case Fans 120 mm Extra Quiet DC fan (two fans)"
i'm terrified to fry something
 
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wow! really helpful to see it all like that. thank you!
FWIW, the 2 NVMe drives are intended to be dual boot drives, each having a 1 tb data drive. eventually i'll need to look into more storage, but I'm not there yet.

are the separate case fans overkill? "Dual Case Fans 120 mm Extra Quiet DC fan (two fans)"
i'm terrified to fry something
You wont fry anything by adding a couple extra fans. None of the parts will be overheating much either. Both the cases that are recommended are very high airflow and the Noctua cooler for the CPU is literally the best air cooler made.
 
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the Noctua cooler for the CPU is literally the best air cooler made.

That's why I got it despite all the "thermalright peerless assassin is 1/3 the price and does the same job" that I heard. Not sure how accurate that statement is but I went with Noctua based on their reputation even if it meant paying more.

The cooler doesn't disappoint. I've ran 30 min all core cpu burn tests and within 1 min my 7950x3D hit 89C... and then stayed there for 29 minutes with the Noctua at max 1500rpm.

Impressed me considering that is far beyond my daily use workload so I feel like I'm in good hands.
 
Morning all, I'm building a vfx workstation for Houdini + maya, w/ redshift and I am looking for some sanity checks. I know that I could get away with less power in this machine... but being that this is for remote vfx work, I'm trying to put my best foot forward. To that end, I'm happy with the 7950x(debating about the 3d) and the 4090... but I'd love some other eyes on the motherboard, cooling, power supply, storage, and case, etc...

Many thanks.

**note: I posted something similar in the cooling section. apologies if that's a no-no double post. let me know and I can remove that.


Cougar MX330-X Black Mid Tower ATX Case , Front USB 3.0
Dual Case Fans 120 mm Extra Quiet DC fan (two fans)
AMD RYZEN 9 7950X3D 16-Core 4.2GHz (5.7 GHz Turbo)
Noctua NH-D15 chromax.Black, Premium CPU Cooler with 2x NF-A15 PWM 140mm Fans
Gigabyte B650M DS3H AM5, DDR5, USB 3.2, USB-C, 2.5GB LAN

MEMORY DDR5 128GB (4x32GB) PC5-38400/4800MHz Quad Channel
GeForce RTX 4090 24GB PCI EXpress 4.0, up to 4 monitors, HDMI+ 3 display port
2 x 1TB SAMSUNG 980 m.2 Solid State Drive,NVMe PCI-Express 3.0, 3500MB/s
2 x 1TB SSD Samsung 870 Series Solid State Drive, SATA3 6.0Gb/s, 560MBs

Realtek HD digital audio (onboard)
Ethernet network adapter 10/100/1000 (onboard)
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000W GQ, 80 Plus Gold, Extra Quiet Modular Power Supply
Those X3D cpu's are meant for gaming, not productivity.
 
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Those X3D cpu's are meant for gaming, not productivity.
I don't often do productivity stuff... but when I do I use the 7950x3D.

It really boils down to my 70/30 gaming/productivity usage with said productivity being editing/encoding of high resolution 4-6K video.

I saw a lot of benchmarks where the 7800x3D was way behind in that type of stuff... which makes sense considering 8 cores < 16 cores.

The 7950x3D is good at both so that's why I went with it. At the end of the day I'd rather have the extra cores over a few fps that doesn't make all that much difference to me since the 4090 does all the work at 4K resolution anyway.

Another reason I went with the x3D is the power draw and thermals are much better than the non-x3D chips.