Is my DDR3-2933 compatible with my motherboard? General question about my setup.

Johndyville

Reputable
May 8, 2014
3
0
4,510
Hey, so I'm building my first PC desktop, and one thing that I can't quite understand is the motherboard with the ram compatibility. I'm thinking of getting the MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard and I was wondering if its compatible with the Corsair Vengeance Pro Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2933 Memory?
Me and my roommate are gonna build it for gaming and college work.
I know this section is just for memory, but do you guys know if this set-up could work? and am I exaggerating?

CPU:
Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler:
Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard:
MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory:
Corsair Vengeance Pro Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2933 Memory
Storage:
Intel X25-E 32GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (to put the operating system on, could easily wipe incase of virus)
Intel 730 Series 480GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (for games, etc.)
Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Disk (for all our documents, images, etc.)
Video card:
EVGA GeForce GTX Titan Black 6GB Superclocked Video Card
Case:
Thermaltake Level 10 GT (VN10001W2N) Black Steel
Power supply:
Corsair 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (He says its too little... what do you think?)
Optical Drive:
Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer
Operating system:
Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)
Fan controller:
NZXT Sentry 2 Fan Controller
Card reader:
Rosewill RCR-IC001 40-in-1 USB 2.0 3.5" Internal Card Reader w/ USB Port / Extra Silver Face Plate

Thinking about putting an extra fan in there... I am still a noob, so input is welcome! 😀

Also, really want it future proof... and we are splitting the costs, so price doesn't seem like an issue...
 
Solution
You want documented ram compatibility. If you should ever have a problem, you want supported ram.
Otherwise, you risk a finger pointing battle between the ram and motherboard support sites, claiming "not my problem".
One place to check is your motherboards web site.
Look for the ram QVL list. It lists all of the ram kits that have been tested with that particular motherboard.
Sometimes the QVL list is not updated after the motherboard is released.
For more current info, go to a ram vendor's web site and access their ram selection configurator.
Enter your motherboard, and you will get a list of compatible ram kits.
While today's motherboards are more tolerant of different ram, it makes sense to buy ram that is known to work and is...
You want documented ram compatibility. If you should ever have a problem, you want supported ram.
Otherwise, you risk a finger pointing battle between the ram and motherboard support sites, claiming "not my problem".
One place to check is your motherboards web site.
Look for the ram QVL list. It lists all of the ram kits that have been tested with that particular motherboard.
Sometimes the QVL list is not updated after the motherboard is released.
For more current info, go to a ram vendor's web site and access their ram selection configurator.
Enter your motherboard, and you will get a list of compatible ram kits.
While today's motherboards are more tolerant of different ram, it makes sense to buy ram that is known to work and is supported.

The current Intel cpu's have an excellent integrated ram controller. It is able to keep the cpu fed with data from any speed ram.

The difference in real application performance or FPS between the fastest and slowest ram is on the order of 1-3%.

Synthetic benchmark differences will be impressive, but are largely irrelevant in the real world.

Fancy heat spreaders are mostly marketing too.

In fact tall heat spreaders are a negative because they can impact some cpu coolers.
Only if you are seeking record level overclocks should you consider faster ram or better latencies.

Read this Anandtech article on haswell memory scaling:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-haswell
---------------bottom line------------

DDR3 1600 or 1866 1.5v low profile ram is what I would look for.
If anything, prefer low cas numbers over speed.

You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua NH-D14 or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"
 
Solution
The components will work together, I'd change the mobo (I won't build with MSI due to their poor QC) and go Asus, I prefer the Hero (what I chose) or the Pro, know both can handle up through 3000 sticks at 16GB, have seen a number of Z87 mobo that if they an handle 2800-3000 tend to be limited to 8GB total (and of course the individual CPU plays heavily (and more specifically, the MC (memory controller) in the CPU), have run a set of 32GB 2800 with my 4770K, so know it's strong (wish they were my sticks 😉 ) and that the CPU hasn't been the problem.

If strictly gaming, then 1866 or even 2133 is more than sufficient, but if you really use the rig and do things like multi-tasking, video, imaging, CAD, VMs, use large data sets etc, then that's where you will see the high freq sticks shine
 


He wants to get 4K for gaming