Is my i5 3570K a Ferrari 250 GTO of the cpu's?

[Rafael Mestdag]

I mean, this cpu is from 2012 but it manages somehow to beat even a 3rd gen i7 and it also beats(by far) a 4th gen i5!!

Is this cpu a sort of Ferrari 250 GTO? A 60's car which is still fast by today's standards and was once sold for over 40 million dollars?

Why is this cpu so fast?

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Interesting post far fetched but, made me smile nonetheless. No doubting the I5 3570k was a great chip in it's day, and is still a very capable chip.

Your analogy, although very colourful (the GTO 250 from Ferris Buellers immediately springs to mind! ) is inaccurate.
The 3570k does not beat the comparative 4th Gen I5. Each new iteration brings approx 5-10% IPC improvements, so your statement is not true. The 3570k may well beat out some lower end 4th gen I5's but not the new version of the 3570k ( in this case the I5 4670k)

Google 'I5 4670k review' and you will see clearly the i5 4670k is the better CPU. sometimes as much as 20%. Often as little as 3-5%. But better all the same.

 

[USAFRet]

Classic, and fast in its day.

For a similar analogy, consider this, though...
A Jag XKE or Porsche 356 Speedster (both uber sports cars in their day) get their asses handed to them by a Honda Odyssey minivan.
https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/soccer-moms-revenge/

 

[Rafael Mestdag]

Guys, just take a look at this youtube video and check it for yourselves:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lCq8Qk9wjY&t=218s

In the video the FX 6300 loses badly in a GTA V fps competition to my 3570K and - believe it or not, just watch it - the 3570k also comes really close to an i7 6700K!!!

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Guys, just take a look at this youtube video and check it for yourselves:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lCq8Qk9wjY&t=218s

In the video the FX 6300 loses badly in a GTA V fps competition to my 3570K and - believe it or not, just watch it - the 3570k also comes really close to an i7 6700K!!!

You're comparing apples to oranges Like i said there's no doubting the 3570k is/was an excellent chip. But even still, it has it's limitations. Of course the FX6300 is gonna lose badly to a 3570k. They are two vastly different architectures, and the 3570k stomps all over the FX6300 in every single way. No one would deny that.

With regard to the 3570k and 6700k being close. Well in very limited scenarios that may be true, as it's purely comes down to clockspeed and the way programs/apps don't take advantage of more than four cores (3570k) but when ou say close, close means within 20% (The IPC increase from one generation to the next - at least with Intel). With that said, in those apps that do take advantage the i7 6700k will absolutely mash up the 3570k. It's not even a fair comparison. The 6700k is a much better chip in every way.

I don't mean to sound patronising, but just read a little more about the chips and you will understand better the limitations and differences between both. Youtube vids, as much as they can be helpful, are not the best way to get detailed information about the nuances between different platforms/CPU architecture.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Classic, and fast in its day.

For a similar analogy, consider this, though...
A Jag XKE or Porsche 356 Speedster (both uber sports cars in their day) get their asses handed to them by a Honda Odyssey minivan.
https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/soccer-moms-revenge/

ha, good article no vid though. That would have been good to watch!

 

[The Original Ralph]

.........
Is this cpu a sort of Ferrari 250 GTO? A 60's car which is still fast by today's standards............ ?

not so sure you can say that - 0-60 times for that ferrari are surprisingly slow, something like 8.8 seconds. I bought a VW R32 back in 2005 with a 3.2L V6 because of it's 1/4 mile times - it was actually as fast or faster, stock than 1967 GTOs, Olds 442s, you name it. Cars today overall, performance wise, are light years ahead of yester years cars

 

[Rafael Mestdag]

.........
Is this cpu a sort of Ferrari 250 GTO? A 60's car which is still fast by today's standards............ ?

not so sure you can say that - 0-60 times for that ferrari are surprisingly slow, something like 8.8 seconds. I bought a VW R32 back in 2005 with a 3.2L V6 because of it's 1/4 mile times - it was actually as fast or faster, stock than 1967 GTOs, Olds 442s, you name it. Cars today overall, performance wise, are light years ahead of yester years cars

I thought that the 250 GTO weighed like 800Kg as it is represented in a very good racing simulator I have(Assetto Corsa) where the car is very hard to handle and very fast. I suppose a car like that with close to 300HP and 800Kg would be a lot faster to 62mph than 8 seconds.

 

[USAFRet]

250 GTO 0-60 times.
Between 5.4 and 6 sec

https://www.topspeed.com/cars/ferrari/1962-1964-ferrari-250-gto-ar15766.html
http://fastestlaps.com/models/ferrari-250-gto


In any case...this is a useless analogy.
One of the absolute fastest, and rarest, compared to todays cars.
And a garden variety commodity CPU compared to subsequent generation.

 

[Rafael Mestdag]

250 GTO 0-60 times.
Between 5.4 and 6 sec

https://www.topspeed.com/cars/ferrari/1962-1964-ferrari-250-gto-ar15766.html
http://fastestlaps.com/models/ferrari-250-gto


In any case...this is a useless analogy.
One of the absolute fastest, and rarest, compared to todays cars.
And a garden variety commodity CPU compared to subsequent generation.

Take a look at this comparison and tell me my 3570k is a "garden variety commodity cpu":

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4770-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3570K/1978vs1316

 

[Rafael Mestdag]

Here's another one that shows that the 3570k may very well be in fact the "Ferrari 250 GTO" of the cpu's:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3570K/3515vs1316

 

[DSzymborski]

Here's another one that shows that the 3570k may very well be in fact the "Ferrari 250 GTO" of the cpu's:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3570K/3515vs1316

Have you actually read a single thing said in this thread?

Nobody's saying that the 3570k is a slow chip or a bad chip. Only that it's nothing special; the reason the 3570k performs well against Skylake CPUs is because Intel has generally only made incremental gains generationally. An i5 3470 stands up well to an i5 6500. An i5 3350p stands up well to an i5 6400.

The 3570k isn't some magical, rare CPU out there, it was probably the most common gaming CPU seen for that generation at a time whe Intel didn't generally didn't net large gains from new CPUs. No reason to start a bizarre thread making it something it isn't.

 

[USAFRet]

Take a look at this comparison and tell me my 3570k is a "garden variety commodity cpu":

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4770-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3570K/1978vs1316

For one, I take any data/results/comparisons from "userbenchmark.com" as utter junk.

For two, it's a very good CPU. I have one. It was my main chip for several years. It now lives in the movie box.
So what? It is not rare, or special, or some kind of uber AI machine.