Is my i5-3570k dying, or is it a dying MOBO/Power Supply?

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So ever since I replaced my GTX 660 with a GTX 970 (drastically different Power Supply consumptions), my games have been feeling weird, sluggish, and I'm not getting adequate frames for what an i5-3570k and GTX 970 should be pulling.

My motherboard is a 3-4year old GIGABYTE-B75M-D3H, unable to Overclock because it's terrible.

My PSU is some random Corsair 600W that is also 3-4+ years old.

My GTX 970 requires a MINIMUM of 500W power draw, excluding everything else in my computer.

My CPU temps have also risen from pretty low to about 30-40C idle, and upwards of 70% load and 50-60C when two 1080p streams are open.

Do you think this is a sign of a faulty/insufficient Power Supply + dying motherboard, or is my CPU dying? The i5-3570k 3.4GHz is about 3 years old too.

Edit: Also forgot to mention that now things on my 2nd monitor (60Hz) feel a LOT more jittery and sluggish once I installed my GTX 970, and my computer tends to bog down if I have a 1080p stream on the 2nd monitor, but the moment I close any stream on the 2nd monitor, my temps go down by about 10C and the computer starts being smooth again (games still sluggish and not performing up to standards).

I asked around for the past 5 days and multiple people with my exact same setup (i5-3570k 3.4GHZ and GTX 970) have stated they're getting 3-4x my performance, so that's what is making me think it's my MOBO/PSU and not so much my CPU.
 
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The GTX 970 doesn't use 500w on it's own, that's the estimate for the whole systems power usage.
Did you use DDU to reinstall the graphics drivers when you switched cards?
Try completely unplugging your second monitor and run games in full screen mode, running in windowed for me makes it stutter and play badly.
 
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Yes I used DDU ~3 times to reinstall and even rollback to older drivers.

Hell, I even completely reinstalled Windows and that didn't fix it.

I was told since my PSU is probably bronze certified or even worse than that, at 600W over the course of nearly 3-4 years, that the wattage would be drastically decreased, that and I guess with my current MOBO the 970 would ruin it.

Edit: I'm asking all of this because I'm considering just buying the following and just swapping my i5 to the new PC with these components, hopefully repairing the presumably faulty MOBO/PSU and unlocking the ability to overclock my CPU: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RPqbQ7
 
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Seems like overkill for what could be a simple issue. It's possible it's a PSU, I doubt highly it's the MOBO as long as your GPU is PCIE 3.0 16x compatible. I would question whether there are issues with the GPU? Possible defects, and if not then spend $79.99 (estimated) get something like this 750 watt modular monster. EVGA 120-G1-0750-XR SuperNOVA NEX ATX 80+ Gold
 
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Well forgot to mention that I was wanting to OC my i5 as well, which my motherboard just doesn't allow. So I figured possibly dropping ~$280-$300 (maybe even less because my friend has the exact case in my PCPartPicker that he may be able to lend me) would be a more reliable fix, and ultimately better long-term, especially with OC in mind.

Edit: I was just trying to narrow shit down to see if it was a failing CPU, or a MOBO/Power consumption issue. I don't think my GPU is failing, at least I hope not. It runs GTA V/Witcher 3 SIGNIFICANTLY better than my GTX 660, but more CPU intensive games such as League, and ESPECIALLY CS:GO run barely at 150-180 fps and feel very sluggish (almost as if I'm feeling a stream delay but I'm not streaming). That leads me to believe it isn't the GPU, but rather either the CPU or a mobo/psu issue :/

I originally had a new i5-4690k on the PCPartPicker but then it occurred to me that I may be able to just salvage the i5 into the build I linked, provided it isn't faulty/dying on me.

Edit 2: About to run a Prime95 test on my CPU and a Furmark test on my GPU, I ran MEMTEST and no errors came back.

Prime95: http://prntscr.com/7h91pl - After 5 Minutes of 100% load these are my temps, not bad if I'm not mistaken?
Furmark: Got nothing less than 62fps constant, temps didn't go above 50-60C (is Furmark capped at 60fps~)?

Installing 3DMark Demo on Steam to test that too.
 
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Hard to diagnose and tell if these things would fix the problem, though you mentioned wanting to update the motherboard. z77 boards aren't any cheaper (according to pcpartpicker) than z97 boards, if anything they're pretty pricey unless you can find a used one and then you're rolling the dice it's not defective. I'd recommend a better psu either way, though not a g1/b1 if going evga. Those are their tier 3 psu's.

If you can find a deal on a z77 board great. Also you'll need a decent aftermarket cooler (not sure what your build consists of at the moment). Otherwise you're looking at $133 for a motherboard.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77extreme4

Something like this evga b2 psu is around $55-60 after a mail in rebate.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-110b20750vr

Otherwise one of these for around $70
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii620bronze
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-hcg620m

Preferably something from tier2 or higher here.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

You still may want to consider an upgrade of the cpu if you're putting that kind of money into a system upgrade rather than a couple hundred just to overclock the cpu you have. It's still not guaranteed to solve your stuttering issue which could be a hardware or software/driver issue with the gpu.

 
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I'm currently looking at the Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply for $64.99 (sale) on Newegg, is that fine, or would you recommend something else?

Do you know of a cheaper board that is 1155 compatible and allows for OC'ing an i5-3570k? I ran a few tests and asked some others and they said based off my tests, my CPU is just fine, so I'm leaning toward a faulty/insufficient PSU/MOBO. I'm just not wanting to drop $240 minimum on a new CPU if my i5-3570k when OC'ed to 4.4GHz will be enough.

Plus I ran the Furmark test on my GPU and it ran fine without error and a good, stable FPS. I'm about to run 3DMark now and I'm hoping to see the same results. So I'm not quite sure if it'd be a GPU hardware/driver issue. The newest nVidia drivers were causing black screens, graphical artifacts and even random BSOD's sometimes so I'm currently just sitting on the 347.88 drivers.
 
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The above user stated that EVGA's B1 series isn't that good, would you recommend just any other brand other than Corsair? What would be the better brands in your opinion?
 
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To be honest, I am with you, I bought a corsair. I can tell you, EVGA, Cooler Master, Antec, and Rosewill (oddly enough) are the ones I usually hear the most being used in good builds, beside Corsair. I wish I could say I had more experience with them, but I have only used a few PSU's and the one I am using now is a carry over from my last build. Sorry.
 
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Well I just ran 3DMark and now I'm a little concerned..

These are the results I got: http://prntscr.com/7hancp

5k on graphics test is absurdly low from the other scores I'm seeing people get (10k+ oftentimes).
 
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Corsair has a couple tier 1 units that are good quality but they certainly charge for them as well. The ax/axi, hxi - most other corsair psu's including the builder series, cx, vs, cs, rx, cxm are all tier3 meaning they're fine for a stock run of the mill office or library pc like a kiosk or some other which won't see heavy use. They're usually popular because they're almost always on sale or in other regions may be one of very few choices but they don't use that great of quality component.

Seasonic is one of the better quality manufacturers (corsair doesn't make their psu's, they slap their name on others) and has their own seasonic branded as well as supplying most of the xfx, antec, evga and other labels which most fall into tier2 or tier1. Tier 2 is recommended for better quality parts, overclocking, conditions where the power supply needs to provide solid steady clean power. Your mileage may vary with corsair as a power supply, personally I stay away from them. Especially at $65-70 price range, there's no reason not to get a similarly priced psu with better quality. A solid 620w psu can deliver better power than a cheaper/lower quality 750w.

I'm not as familiar with the ivy bridge cpu's in terms of quality motherboards for overclocking. This one should probably work though for around $85.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z75pro3

 
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Thank you, I'll definitely look into that. However, I'm concerned that my GPU might be faulty. Please refer to my post above regarding my 3DMark 11 scores :/

Would an insufficient PSU/dying MOBO restrict voltage/overall performance of certain parts in my PC (CPU/GPU)? I was told it would. At this point I'm not sure if my GPU is faulty or not, it runs Witcher 3/GTA V very well but gets these DRASTICALLY low scores in 3DMark under 100% load so..
 
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Ended up upgrading to the following build and will just transfer my SSD/HDD/GPU/RAM over to this new one:

1 x Cooler Master HAF 912 - High Air Flow Mid Tower Computer Case

1 x Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120 mm PWM Fan

1 x CORSAIR CX series CX750M 750W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

1 x Intel Core i5-4690K Devil's Canyon Quad-Core 3.5GHz LGA 1150 BX80646I54690K Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics ...

1 x MSI Z97 GAMING 5 LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
 
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