Is my new board dead already?

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Recently, I upgraded my GPU from an HD 7770 to an HD 7970, and I noticed I was getting FPS drops in games. I figured the VRMs were overheating on my old board (ASUS M5A78L-M LX V2) so I got a new board. A Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3. Apart from the unrelated issue of a winows crash on startup, which was fixed by switching from AHCI to IDE to boot and install drivers, the only seemingly minor issue was that I could no longer get as many FPS on lower settings in CS:GO as I could before. I could get more on maxed settings, and I got 3X as many FPS on Furmark, so it was an issue I was sure i could get to the bottom of.
BUT: The next day, I tried to power my PC on, and nothing happened. The fans spin, but there is no HDD activity, no POST screen (I guess...I dunno cus i got no picture on my screen) no beeps from the little case speaker...nothing. just fans at low RPM. I tried resetting CMOS (though shorting the pins in the dark with a screwdriver was tricky and I dunno if I got them. I'll try again this afternoon using the jumper from my old board, if it fits) I tried swapping the RAM around, putting it in different slots, trying one stick at a time, in different slots. I replaced the GPU with my old one, and all that happened was that the fan's RPM would kind of pulse. I'd had that problem before, and it was a failed PSU, so I went and got a new one. (The old one was a 500watt, so was cutting it pretty close)
Anyway, I just installed the new PSU, and I'm getting the same thing. I only plugged in the drive with my operating system on.
I need to try clearing the CMOS properly, and I need to maybe try different RAM, though I don't have any spare, and it worked fine for a day.
But...it's looking like either the board just died after 1 day of use, or the CPU died after one day in a new board. Both of which seem kind of odd. I still have my old board, so i can put everything back on that to rule out the CPU and the RAM, but I'd prefer to check first, to see if there are any checks i can do without having to strip everything outta there.
Any ideas? Oh, the CPU is an FX 8350, cooler is a coolermaster hyper 212 evo, My OS is on a Samsung 840 SSD. The RAM...I dunno. It was Kingston, i remember that. And I know it's 2X4GB, but without going and looking, that's all I know.
Old PSU was a corsair CX500. New one is a CX600m, and second-hand cus I wasn't sure enough that it was the cause.
I think that's all the info. Any ideas? I haven't tried troubleshooting with the board out of the case, yet, but I'll do that this afternoon


Update: I have the board out of the computer, so Imma start some ground-up diagnostics. The CLR_CMOS jumper from my old board fits this one, so I'll make sure the CMOS is properly cleared. The battery reads 3.03 volts, no-load, which is a little low for a fresh 2032, One of the screws that hold the board in place had fallen out, so a short is entirely possible, too.
 
Okay, soo....Not looking good. I have the mobo on a mouse pad, with the processor and GPU on it. No RAM. I get no beep at all when it powers up. Then I realised that the board seems to have no speaker, so I dragged the case over and plugged in the speaker from that. I think the "ultra durable" board bit the dust after one day of use. I'll check the processor is still seated properly, and try playing around with RAM in different slots, but it seems the board is braindead. I'll try a fresh CMOS battery too, but I have little hope for that. Is there any way to be sure whether it's the board or the CPU?I assume I'd get beeps if it was the CPU. I guess all I can do is try the cpu back in the old board
 
Sounds like a bios setting problem, did you try oc before you played cs-go the other day ?
In the meantime, put the mobo back inside the case, set it back up the way you had it.
Plug in the cord, look for a cmos jumper once you find it put it in the other pin slots. I II normal <-- II I reset <--
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Power it on for thirty 30 seconds then power it back off, remove the cord and let it sit there for about 30 minutes.
Now come back to it after that, put the jumper back into normal position, plug the cord back in.
Wait 30 seconds and then try to power it on, if your lucky enough it'll power right back on.
The only problem left is configuring the bios setup to the way it needs to be so this won't happen again for a long time.
You might have to wait a full day or so if it doesn't work out if it still fails call gigabyte and explain the whole problem.

When you have motherboards that do this it can be annoying at times.
 


No, I had no intention of overclocking anything until I was happy everything was stable. BUT...it's working now. I don't know why. I was rolling a smoke, staring at it, and it just sprang to life. I guess it was just taking a very long time to POST for some reason, and I never gave it enough time. Maybe clearing the CMOS fixed an issue that was there before, or maybe it always just needed to be given a really long time to POST for some unknown reason. I powered it off and connected my primary disk drive, and it booted just fine in the normal amount of time. Any idea why it would take so long? It booted normally the day before.
i'll give it another go out of the case with the other RAM module back in, then put it all back together and add one drive at a time. I wish I could say I knew what the problem was and how it got fixed, but it might well have started up just fine in the case, without the CMOS being cleared, if i'd just given it as much time as I did just now.
 
Well this is why I suggested you try my instructions, just because the problem may seem gone for now doesn't mean it won't happen again.
All the mobo's I've had and when they refused to start up, usually it went back right back to a cmos configuration problem or some other component going haywire.
What kind of hdd do you have, also make and model would be good, that would explain why your mobo didn't want to boot right away.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-hardware/what-does-ahci-mode-ide-mode-raid-mode-sata-mean/d622d5cd-41c4-4b84-90ef-cea69aa47089?auth=1

 


 
Alright remove the ssd and try to power it on if it does then there is a problem with your ssd.
If not the only thing left is to try a psu, borrow one or have a computer store test your machine.
If none of that still works, get in touch with gigabyte technical support.
http://esupport.gigabyte.com/Question/Tech?Country=U.K.#2


Be sure to include this thread url so they can see clearly you've tried everything and ran out of options except for a new or upgraded mobo rma replacement.
 

I already bought a new PSU cus it was the first thing I suspected. As soon as I first got the PC to come on after first having this problem, I immediately checked my old PSU so I could sell it, and it booted fine with that one, too. If it was the SSD, surely I'd still get a beep and still be able to enter BIOS? Actually, i haven't even tried pressing Delete. I just get a black screen. I'll try that too. I'll just have to spam it constantly.
Unfortunately, i can't RMA the board because it's a used one off EBAY, but there's no need to tell support that, I suppose...


 
Yeah, it was less than a week ago, and I haven't left feedback yet, so a return is an option. Seems a bit of a bad thing to do considering it worked fine at first, but it may be my only option. Hell, the previous owner may have known about this and just wanted to offload it. They forgot to remove the damn back plate and send it with the board, so who knows? But for now, I'm not gonna give up. An intermittent short is still a possibility, I guess. So, I'm going to strip everything and breadboard again. I'll even clean the contacts on the RAM and CMOS battery holder
 
LOL well stuff happens, you maybe going through a bad moment right now but try to find something to laugh at it down the road later.
Also it isn't a bad thing if you need to return a item that was supposed to be working from such said folks.
Just be nice about it all the way through, if he starts to get stupid about it, just go ahead and file a dispute with paypal.
Most sellers want positive feedback no matter what, you get your money back no probs don't leave negative or positive feedback because of a bad deal.

Look into those mobo on newegg, thankfully the site is catered towards the uk and small portion of europe.
 

Actually, there is hope. I took it outta the case again and started it up. For maybe 10 seconds nothing happened, but then I got the rapid beeping. I put a stick of RAM in and tried again, and got a single beep. I wonder if i had a static issue or something. Cable management isn't the best -- the case is now by far the oldest, most low-grade part of the whole PC, and things are pretty cramped in there.

 


Nono. lol. The rapid beeping was with no RAM installed. When i installed one stick, i got a single beep. Same with both.


 


I'm pretty sure the single beep is what i always get when it starts up successfully. I never had the monitor plugged in, so i don't know, yet
Yeah, the link says 1 short beep - system normal. The rapid beeping was with no RAM. I guess it would have been the 10 short beeps but i never counted

Update: Yep. plugged the SSD in and a keyboard and it booted just fine. I think something about having it in the case is scrambling the BIOS. That's not too bad, since that's the next thing on the upgrade list anyway

 
I might. It's working right now, but after I shut it down when it started working again, When i tried to turn it back on...same problem. I took out the RAM and disconnected the hard drive, powered it on once, plugged the RAM back in, powered it on once, then plugged the SSD in and powered it on, and it booted again. I have no idea now. This has got me pretty baffled. Time to actually read the manual. i'm sure this board has a backup BIOS you can set up.

If I power it off now, I'll probably get the same problem again, and have to power it on once with no RAM in to get it to boot.

OR...I noticed, putting the ram in, that the bend in the board (yep, it has a bend in it) means the middle part of the RAM module isn't seated all the way to the bottom of the slot. I had to give it an extra push right in the middle and I felt it go a millimeter or so deeper. I doubt that's the problem though, cus the board is flat when it's screwed to all the standoffs, but I'm filing it away

So..it seems that, to get it to load BIOS and boot, I need to Take the RAM out and start it up once. Doesn't that suggest it's just some setting or other, since the things is working fine right now. I'm actually watching a movie on it as I type this on the laptop. Everything is behaving as normal.
 
Honestly no if any part of the motherboard is bent its going to cause system problems or just not boot at all.
I'll give you credits for trying and being persistent but there will be times somethings must be returned or replaced.
All of this trouble for a used motherboard isn't worth the stress, 3 days of troubleshooting and nothing works right.
Is enough go ahead and contact the seller, this would be the best time to do so.