is my old power supply support the new z370 motherboards? and more

[anasmmkh]

Hello everyone,

I have an old pc that I want to replace it with a new one.

My intention is to buy the new i5-8400, with keeping the current gtx 660, and with one of these motherboards:

GIGABYTE Z370 AORUS Gaming 5
ASUS ROG Strix Z370-E Gaming
MSI Z370 GAMING M5

I also would like to buy new mid-range GPU after one or two years.


My current power supply is Thermaltake W0093RU 500W ATX 12V 2.0


1) My question is, can my old power supply support the mentioned parts?

2) Please recommend a ram for my PC (8GB only, I will buy another next year maybe)

3) Please recommend a motherboard that is good in Audio function that has good sound quality (from the previous list or another)

4) Please recommend a decent SSD (240GB at least)

Thank you very much.

 

[vapour]

1) Yes, usually old PSU will have problem with newest GPUs instead of MBs.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.89 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($207.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($92.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $591.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-20 13:17 EDT-0400

 

[ko888]

You don't have a 500W power supply. The Thermaltake TR2-500 PP (W0093RU) is only a 450W power supply with a 500W peak rating (i.e. see the OEM CWT model number PSF450S-30). This is typical Thermaltake liar labeling from that era (circa 2006). The Over Power Protection will kick in at around 475 Watts.

If you encounter any problems when using the CPU's low power sleep states (i.e. C6 or C7 or C8) you will need to disable support for low power sleep states in the motherboard's BIOS setup.

 

[anasmmkh]

1) Yes, usually old PSU will have problem with newest GPUs instead of MBs.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.89 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($207.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($92.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $591.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-20 13:17 EDT-0400

Thanks for the recommendations, if I skip the GPU part, does my power supply do the job for the rest?

and also why you picked this particular motherboard?

thanks.

 

[anasmmkh]

You don't have a 500W power supply. The Thermaltake TR2-500 PP (W0093RU) is only a 450W power supply with a 500W peak rating (i.e. see the OEM CWT model number PSF450S-30). This is typical Thermaltake liar labeling from that era (circa 2006). The Over Power Protection will kick in at around 475 Watts.

If you encounter any problems when using the CPU's low power sleep states (i.e. C6 or C7 or C8) you will need to disable support for low power sleep states in the motherboard's BIOS setup.

I really appreciate your reply, and ohh that was shocking information for me as I took the Thermaltake Company one of the decent company in the market.

I am not sure about what you said when you mentioned this part:

(low power sleep states (i.e. C6 or C7 or C8)

Sorry but I am not familiar with those terms.

 

[anasmmkh]

Hello again,

I did some researches and I want to know your thoughts with these new parts.

are there any better than the following?, or I am ready to go:


Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor

ASUS ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING

Samsung 960 EVO Series - 250GB PCIe NVMe (the PCIe slot is better than the SATA, so I picked this one rather than the above)

Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2666MHz (PC4-21300) C16 (the ram seller which recommended above does not support international shipping - amazon)


Thank you for your help.

 

[vapour]

Only comment is the ram should be dual channel, I.e. Two sticks in a pack, not two same model sticks. The description should look like "2x4 gb"

 

[anasmmkh]

Only comment is the ram should be dual channel, I.e. Two sticks in a pack, not two same model sticks. The description should look like "2x4 gb"

What about this one:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0123ZBPDA/ref=twister_B01M33CGCY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

does my new system take the full benefit from this ram like MHz speed and other things?

What is the maximum speed that my CPU-Motherboard will handle it?

Thanks.

 

[vapour]

Will benefit from faster ram. However, I couldn't find the exact model number on the link, you can get this one instead:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($0.00)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($101.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $101.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-23 07:51 EDT-0400

 

[vapour]

RAM speed is more related to mb although will be impacted by CPU. Intel is not as picky as Ryzen, 3000 should mostly do fine and the mb should be capable. 3200 may need some luck/bios update/samsung b-die, it will be safe if you purchase a 2x4 gb listed on MB QVL list since it has been tested. I purchased a ripsaw set not listed in QVL, but running 3200 atm.

 

[anasmmkh]

RAM speed is more related to mb although will be impacted by CPU. Intel is not as picky as Ryzen, 3000 should mostly do fine and the mb should be capable. 3200 may need some luck/bios update/samsung b-die, it will be safe if you purchase a 2x4 gb listed on MB QVL list since it has been tested. I purchased a ripsaw set not listed in QVL, but running 3200 atm.

The maximum speed supported by the asus motherboard is up to 4000 MHz (higher than 2666 MHz will require an OC)

So, if I am not interested in overclocking world, the best option I have is to purchase a ram with 2666 MHz speed?

Is there any actual differences between speed for example 2666 and 3200?

Please excuse my lack of knowledge.

Thank you.

 

[vapour]

Check this out: https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/198894-raming-speed-does-boosting-ddr4-to-3200mhz-improve-overall-performance
I think past 3000, diff is small with current cpu/game etc. 2666 to 3000 is kind of obvious while smaller than 2133 to 2666 diff.

 

[anasmmkh]

Also I almost forgot,

Is my current power supply will handle the new PC?

Thermaltake W0093RU 500W ATX 12V 2.0

Thanks.

 

[vapour]

How old is the unit? Not familiar with the psu, thermaltake makes both good and bad psus...
Tomshardware folks rated this psu not good: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/250160-28-thermaltake-news-room-thermaltake-w0093ru-version-500w

For your setup, CPU 65W, GPU 140W, rest ~ 50W, times 1.25 for healthy running level -> 350W is more than enough. Get this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $26.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-23 13:24 EDT-0400

 

[anasmmkh]

Thanks bro, real appreciate the advices.