Is overclocking dangerous even with enough cooling?

[thomas81br]

Hello i would like to ask if overclockign is dangerous (of cpu) even if i have sufficient cooling.
Im planning to buy intel 5820K cpu and overclock it.
Even if i get a good cooling (air or water) and will keep thhe temps of the cpu on load lets say in the range of 60s (or 60-70s at worst), which should be ok temps for this cpu. Can i still damage the pc? Im planning to run is extensivelly as my main pc and as a render pc at nights, with around 1 hour off during the day.

Is it ok? I gues my questions is: Even if i have sufficient cooling and the temps are ok- lets say that the standard temp on load of non-OC cpu is 50C, i overclock it (also rise the voltage), buy better cooling and ill manage to keep the temp still 50C (with better cooling), will the cpu wear out faster when overclocked, EVEN IF the temps stay the same? (or does the higher voltage for example wear of the cpu faster even with the same temps?)

 

[RCFProd]

The cooler it runs the longer it will last.

If you keep it under 65-70 degrees under load the CPU will remain healthy for a while but make sure you don't get it past those temperatures.

The art of cooling is to overclock it and still keep the temps as low as possible.

 

[holyrage]

im not sure what are the max temps for the 5820K

but for the mainstream CPUs rule of the thump never get them above 79C for heavy use and start worrying about it after 85C

also never go above 1.3V or 1.35V(if it runs very cool)

 

[uthvag]

i dont have much experience in OCing , but as far as i know the temps are the major killing factor. anything under 80 , you will be fine. (if you OC properly without frying your cpu with excess voltage)

anyway , even if your temps exceed, there will be throttling/shutdown automatically to prevent damage.

 

[jdcranke07]

Okay, temps depending can kill the CPU if you overclock it. Typically, it's the voltage that kills it. As long as you keep temps below 75'C while stress testing and your Vcore (CPU voltage) is below 1.45V. Then you will be fine. It is recommended to get liquid cooling if you plan to try and max you CPU overclock otherwise a good air cooler will at least get you a bit faster in your clock speed.

 

[holyrage]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAH 1.45V for a 22nm chip Holy crap isnt that Overkill!? unless the 5820K is different i really don't know much about the

2011 chips but i expect them to be the same as the mainstream CPUs except that they solder the CPU instead of using pony poop between the die and IHS

 

[jdcranke07]

Okay, temps depending can kill the CPU if you overclock it. Typically, it's the voltage that kills it. As long as you keep temps below 75'C while stress testing and your Vcore (CPU voltage) is below 1.45V. Then you will be fine. It is recommended to get liquid cooling if you plan to try and max you CPU overclock otherwise a good air cooler will at least get you a bit faster in your clock speed.

I see you're one of the many "misinformation" dealers on this site. Putting 1.45V through a 22nm chip is insane. Hell, even with a 32nm chip, it's pretty insane. The most you really ought to put through a 22nm chip like Haswell is about 1.3V. You really shouldn't go much higher than that.

Instead of reading it as I said you could go up to that, I specifically said that you should not go above it. If anyone with a brain and has any common sense then they wouldn't push the chip that far. Ideally lower Vcore is better, but if you have the proper cooling you can go above your 1.3V ceiling. I have cross referenced many websites outside of this one and have many tech friends that support this as well. I'm not going to argue with you because you have your own point of view, but don't attack my comment which is perfectly fine because you personally don't agree with it.

 

[jdcranke07]

@OP: CPUs are pretty resilient and you can go above the 1.3V mentioned by MisterSprinkles. However, lower Vcore leads to cooler temps. So, if you have a great cooling solution you can do a good deal more of overclocking than if you have a stock cooler or a minor air cooler.

 

[jdcranke07]

Okay, temps depending can kill the CPU if you overclock it. Typically, it's the voltage that kills it. As long as you keep temps below 75'C while stress testing and your Vcore (CPU voltage) is below 1.45V. Then you will be fine. It is recommended to get liquid cooling if you plan to try and max you CPU overclock otherwise a good air cooler will at least get you a bit faster in your clock speed.

I see you're one of the many "misinformation" dealers on this site. Putting 1.45V through a 22nm chip is insane. Hell, even with a 32nm chip, it's pretty insane. The most you really ought to put through a 22nm chip like Haswell is about 1.3V. You really shouldn't go much higher than that.

Instead of reading it as I said you could go up to that, I specifically said that you should not go above it. If anyone with a brain and has any common sense then they wouldn't push the chip that far. Ideally lower Vcore is better, but if you have the proper cooling you can go above your 1.3V ceiling. I have cross referenced many websites outside of this one and have many tech friends that support this as well. I'm not going to argue with you because you have your own point of view, but don't attack my comment which is perfectly fine because you personally don't agree with it.

################### You said "do not go above it". In ENGLISH, that means "You can go up to that, but don't go above it". If you weren't speaking English and were speaking some sort of crazy psychic language where we understand what you're attempting, very poorly, to say, you should have mentioned that. And adding "If anyone with a brain... they wouldn't push their chip that far" is also pretty idiotic, because we are clearly dealing with a noob. We could tell him to put 6.5V through his CPU and he'd believe us, because he has no frame of reference.

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You can go up to about 1.4V on 22nm btw with heavy water cooling, where the temp is kept well below 70C, but on air or cheap water, which is no doubt what the OP will have, you can't, so there is no point in mentioning it without a disclaimer. Also on extreme cooling like peltier/LN2/Dice you can go to 1.5V or so safely, when the CPU is below the freezing temperature of water. Again, mentioning this without a disclaimer is pointless, and mentioning it in this thread at all is idiotic, as noobs don't custom W/C with 480mm rads.... I stand by my above comments.

##### But, like I said I'm not here to fight, I'm here to help the OP with his/her issue. I've been overclocking with absolutely no issues for 4 years and I was researching the topic for at least two more before that. And I'm not the type to just let ambiguous posts rule what I do for my own actions. If I'm not clear enough then instead of insulting me, then maybe you or the OP can ask for clarification. However, it still stands that CPUs can handle more than you are apparently comfortable with pushing them to. This is fine for you, but don't tell others that they can't. You can safely with no degradation set the Vcore to approx. 1.4V with no issue. Even some Asus mobos are set to 1.8V by the manufacturer. Obviously, this is not recommended as if a full 1.5V is given to the CPU it could fry it immediately. The amount of voltage all really depends on the CPU and the motherboard it is setting in, but for the higher end CPUs it is for sure safe to set the voltage to no higher than 1.45V (this is really pushing the CPU and is not advised to go up to unless you have the proper cooling). Proper cooling for those that don't know is a full liquid cooled system or even LN2 cooling if you are pushing it that far.

 

[RealBeast]

Let's not engage in personal attacks here, let's focus on the OP question and approach it carefully as Mr. S suggests because it seems clear that the OP is new to overclocking. Thank you.

 

[jdcranke07]

Okay, temps depending can kill the CPU if you overclock it. Typically, it's the voltage that kills it. As long as you keep temps below 75'C while stress testing and your Vcore (CPU voltage) is below 1.45V. Then you will be fine. It is recommended to get liquid cooling if you plan to try and max you CPU overclock otherwise a good air cooler will at least get you a bit faster in your clock speed.

I see you're one of the many "misinformation" dealers on this site. Putting 1.45V through a 22nm chip is insane. Hell, even with a 32nm chip, it's pretty insane. The most you really ought to put through a 22nm chip like Haswell is about 1.3V. You really shouldn't go much higher than that.

Instead of reading it as I said you could go up to that, I specifically said that you should not go above it. If anyone with a brain and has any common sense then they wouldn't push the chip that far. Ideally lower Vcore is better, but if you have the proper cooling you can go above your 1.3V ceiling. I have cross referenced many websites outside of this one and have many tech friends that support this as well. I'm not going to argue with you because you have your own point of view, but don't attack my comment which is perfectly fine because you personally don't agree with it.

################### You said "do not go above it". In ENGLISH, that means "You can go up to that, but don't go above it". If you weren't speaking English and were speaking some sort of crazy psychic language where we understand what you're attempting, very poorly, to say, you should have mentioned that. And adding "If anyone with a brain... they wouldn't push their chip that far" is also pretty idiotic, because we are clearly dealing with a noob. We could tell him to put 6.5V through his CPU and he'd believe us, because he has no frame of reference.

############################

You can go up to about 1.4V on 22nm btw with heavy water cooling, where the temp is kept well below 70C, but on air or cheap water, which is no doubt what the OP will have, you can't, so there is no point in mentioning it without a disclaimer. Also on extreme cooling like peltier/LN2/Dice you can go to 1.5V or so safely, when the CPU is below the freezing temperature of water. Again, mentioning this without a disclaimer is pointless, and mentioning it in this thread at all is idiotic, as noobs don't custom W/C with 480mm rads.... I stand by my above comments.

##### But, like I said I'm not here to fight, I'm here to help the OP with his/her issue. I've been overclocking with absolutely no issues for 4 years and I was researching the topic for at least two more before that. And I'm not the type to just let ambiguous posts rule what I do for my own actions. If I'm not clear enough then instead of insulting me, then maybe you or the OP can ask for clarification. However, it still stands that CPUs can handle more than you are apparently comfortable with pushing them to. This is fine for you, but don't tell others that they can't. You can safely with no degradation set the Vcore to approx. 1.4V with no issue. Even some Asus mobos are set to 1.8V by the manufacturer. Obviously, this is not recommended as if a full 1.5V is given to the CPU it could fry it immediately. The amount of voltage all really depends on the CPU and the motherboard it is setting in, but for the higher end CPUs it is for sure safe to set the voltage to no higher than 1.45V (this is really pushing the CPU and is not advised to go up to unless you have the proper cooling). Proper cooling for those that don't know is a full liquid cooled system or even LN2 cooling if you are pushing it that far.

22nm can handle 1.4V with no degradation eh? That's funny because you couldn't even get away with 1.4 with no degradation on 65nm.

You don't know what you're talking about dude.

That's why I haven't had a single CPU fail and I overclock to almost the point that if I go any higher I would need an active cooling solution to compensate for the higher temps. Your right Sprinkles by all angles apparently. How about you stay on task like the moderator mentioned and actually help the OP or keep your opinions to yourself.