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I would like to get to 60fps in Minecraft RTX (I know that radeons are not the best for RT, but this is the only RT game I play) and right now I get around 48fps. I know it is not a CPU bottleneck with my 7700x because MSI afterburner has my GPU pegged at 100% and my CPU at around 30%. I understand that overclocking the GPU probably won't get me to 60fps but every little bit helps.
 

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The secret to bottlenecks. You will always have one. Fix one part and something else is slowest then. Best you can do is have a balanced system where one part isn't always holding back the other.

Right now, mine is either my ram or Monitor... but I don't plan on changing them. PC is good enough now. If I had a faster monitor, would GPU be able to run its speed... no, I don't want to change anything right now. I once got a 4k monitor for my Birthday and had to upgrade my GPU to able to at least run screen at 60hz. Everything matches now. Not throwing that away.
 
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The secret to bottlenecks. You will always have one. Fix one part and something else is slowest then. Best you can do is have a balanced system where one part isn't always holding back the other.

Right now, mine is either my ram or Monitor... but I don't plan on changing them. PC is good enough now. If I had a faster monitor, would GPU be able to run its speed... no, I don't want to change anything right now. I once got a 4k monitor for my Birthday and had to upgrade my GPU to able to at least run screen at 60hz. Everything matches now. Not throwing that away.
Good advice, I wasn't planning on upgrading for a few years, but if I were to upgrade to an x8xx class card, what power supply (preferably one with at least 1000W to give me room for upgrades further in the future) would you recommend?
 

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power consumption in future is unknown... when i got my card it was totally unclear how much I would need so I went from a 750 to 1kw but now I find I only use about 700 max. That is problem when you order a card without any reviews for it (still none for my card) as you don't know what you need. Was some confusion even about how many pcie cables it needed... techpowerup still say 3... its 2.

Depends on what a x8xx class is :)

If its a 7800XT for example, it only needs 600watt PSU.

Its possible AMD will go back to being power conservative next gen. There may not be any top end cards next gen... that is a rumour anyway. They might just release mid level cards, so you would be waiting for the 9800 and I can't see that far into future...

Nvidia? I don't know, 4080 needs 700watt PSU. No idea about future with them either, their low end cards are really energy efficient now.
 
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power consumption in future is unknown... when i got my card it was totally unclear how much I would need so I went from a 750 to 1kw but now I find I only use about 700 max. That is problem when you order a card without any reviews for it (still none for my card) as you don't know what you need. Was some confusion even about how many pcie cables it needed... techpowerup still say 3... its 2.

Depends on what a x8xx class is :)

If its a 7800XT for example, it only needs 600watt PSU.

Its possible AMD will go back to being power conservative next gen. There may not be any top end cards next gen... that is a rumour anyway. They might just release mid level cards, so you would be waiting for the 9800 and I can't see that far into future...

Nvidia? I don't know, 4080 needs 700watt PSU. No idea about future with them either, their low end cards are really energy efficient now.
Not sure if it helps, but I did find reviews for the 7900xt but as for your specific model, the only thing I can find is Amazon reviews.
 

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I still look for reviews. there is one video review...
Most Powercolor 7900xt reviews are for the Hellhound. I think there are more of them. Or that is card Powercolor sends out to reviewers anyway.
Main differences are:
top speed is higher on mine, though not by much
the Hellhound is 10mm shorter and 10mm thinner. Its heatsink isn't as silly big
different rgb choices., Hellhound only has 2 colours, mine is argb.
chunky card
yz2Ucm2.jpg
 
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I still look for reviews. there is one video review...
Most Powercolor 7900xt reviews are for the Hellhound. I think there are more of them. Or that is card Powercolor sends out to reviewers anyway.
Main differences are:
top speed is higher on mine, though not by much
the Hellhound is 10mm shorter and 10mm thinner. Its heatsink isn't as silly big
different rgb choices., Hellhound only has 2 colours, mine is argb.
chunky card
yz2Ucm2.jpg
With all of these GPU sales I am kind of wishing I would have waited a little bit and maybe gotten a good deal on a GPU, but I don't know if my old HP workstation with an i5 6500 and rx 550 4GB (not to mention 256GB of storage) would have lasted for new games. do you think it would have lasted?
 

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Another thing that made the PC infuriating to use (besides the generally sluggish performance from the CPU and GPU) was the fact that even though it had a SATA SSD, it had HP sure start which meant that it took minutes to boot sometimes (on an SSD). I couldn't ever figure out how to disable it. Just making changes to the bios took a solid 10 minutes because of the long boot times. Going to the NVME SSD I have now was a revelation since the PC boots up in seconds rather than minutes.
 

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HP Sure Start can automatically detect, stop, and recover from a BIOS attack or corruption without IT intervention and with little or no interruption to user productivity. Every time the PC powers on, HP Sure Start automatically validates
the integrity of the BIOS code to help ensure that the PC is safeguarded from malicious attacks. Once the PC is operational, runtime intrusion detection constantly monitors memory. In the case of an attack, the PC can self-heal
using an isolated “golden copy” of the BIOS in less than a minute.


every time at startup seems excessive. guess it is a workstation... for business use mostly.

perform the following steps to disable Sure Start BIOS Settings Protection in HP Computer Setup (F10) in the Security menu under BIOS Sure Start.

  1. Turn on or restart the computer.
  2. Press F10 to enter the BIOS Setup.
  3. Select Security.
  4. Locate BIOS Sure Start.
  5. Uncheck Sure Start BIOS Settings Protection.
  6. Click Save to save the changes and exit HP Computer Setup.

link - just for info, don't do this.


I had same reaction on nvme, hard using anything else now.
 
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every time at startup seems excessive. guess it is a workstation... for business use mostly.



link - just for info, don't do this.


I had same reaction on nvme, hard using anything else now.
I looked at that exact same guide but couldn't for the life of me find that setting in my specific motherboard's bios. I don't even use the computer anymore so it doesn't matter, but man it was frustrating.
 

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That PSU is better.

Its up to you, as I said the increase is on average about 10 fps.

silicon lottery means there are no guarantees, might get more or less.


 
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