[SOLVED] Is the 8gb version of rx 580 still worth getting near the next gen console releases?

[Bubble_Double]

I wanted to get a RX 580 earlier this year, but my PSU wasn't powerful enough and there was no way to upgrade the PSU, cause of the way my OEM HP is built (according to the place i wanted to get the card from) so i got a gtx 1650, it was the best performing card that would work on my current desktop. But i've been thinking of getting a completely new computer with a more powerful CPU (probably some prebuilt system with a gen 4-6 i7) and then replacing my gtx 1650 with an rx 580, but with the xbox series x reveal i was wondering if it'd be better to get the new desktop and rx 580, only the desktop and keep my current graphics card or just wait for the new console generation to come out, then get a completely new build.

 

[King_V]

That's the perpetual debate, PC or Console?

First off, am I assuming you're talking about a 1920x1080 resolution monitor, either with a 60Hz refresh rate, or with FreeSync?

I'm going to assume that, given that you're looking into an RX 580.

I'm a PC owner, and don't really use consoles. But, the general summary is:

• PCs aren't just gaming/entertainment units, they can do more things (office work, web browsing, and numerous other things that don't fall under gaming/videos
• PCs are more expensive, but, due to things like Steam sales, etc., games tend to be cheaper

So, you could say that the PC has more costs front-loaded, but in the long-run saves you, and can potentially be upgraded without having to get a whole new system in the future (whether this is feasible over a period of time that would be the lifetime of one console generation is harder to say)

HOWEVER - from what I've read (NOT personal experience), while consoles target a resolution/refresh rate, they don't necessarily deliver that all the time. I remember debates about the "limits" of an RX 580 for 60fps @ 1080p, but then seeing the argument countered that consoles don't consistently deliver that, plus, PC users have the option of going full on high details, or backing them down, whereas consoles do not (again, for me, secondhand info) have the details cranked up as high as can be done on a PC, if your video card is capable.

I'd say in the long term, the PC is the way to go, especially if you need to do other non-gaming related things. For strictly gaming, the answer might not be so clear, but long term, I'd probably still give the edge to the PC.


If you do go PC, though, keep an eye on the falling prices of the RX570/RX580/RX590 (the Polaris cards). Potentially in January, when the RX 5600 XT comes out, it could exert further downward pressure on the Polaris cards, as well as the newly released RX 5500 XT.

I would say if you're going to go PC, though, it might be best to consider the RX590, or possibly the GTX 1650 Super (performs about RX 580 range), 1660 non-Super, or 1660 Super. The latter two might be overkill, though the 1660 non-super should probably be a non-starter, since the 1660 Super is generally only $10 or so more.

 

[Bubble_Double]

That's the perpetual debate, PC or Console?

First off, am I assuming you're talking about a 1920x1080 resolution monitor, either with a 60Hz refresh rate, or with FreeSync?

I'm going to assume that, given that you're looking into an RX 580.

I'm a PC owner, and don't really use consoles. But, the general summary is:

• PCs aren't just gaming/entertainment units, they can do more things (office work, web browsing, and numerous other things that don't fall under gaming/videos
• PCs are more expensive, but, due to things like Steam sales, etc., games tend to be cheaper

So, you could say that the PC has more costs front-loaded, but in the long-run saves you, and can potentially be upgraded without having to get a whole new system in the future (whether this is feasible over a period of time that would be the lifetime of one console generation is harder to say)

HOWEVER - from what I've read (NOT personal experience), while consoles target a resolution/refresh rate, they don't necessarily deliver that all the time. I remember debates about the "limits" of an RX 580 for 60fps @ 1080p, but then seeing the argument countered that consoles don't consistently deliver that, plus, PC users have the option of going full on high details, or backing them down, whereas consoles do not (again, for me, secondhand info) have the details cranked up as high as can be done on a PC, if your video card is capable.

I'd say in the long term, the PC is the way to go, especially if you need to do other non-gaming related things. For strictly gaming, the answer might not be so clear, but long term, I'd probably still give the edge to the PC.


If you do go PC, though, keep an eye on the falling prices of the RX570/RX580/RX590 (the Polaris cards). Potentially in January, when the RX 5600 XT comes out, it could exert further downward pressure on the Polaris cards, as well as the newly released RX 5500 XT.

I would say if you're going to go PC, though, it might be best to consider the RX590, or possibly the GTX 1650 Super (performs about RX 580 range), 1660 non-Super, or 1660 Super. The latter two might be overkill, though the 1660 non-super should probably be a non-starter, since the 1660 Super is generally only $10 or so more.

Thanks, but I wasn't really asking about getting a console or an rx 580. I was asking if the rx 580 would still perform well after the new console generation came out, since games tend to get more demanding. Or if it'd be wiser to wait like 1-2 years after the new console generation launch and maybe then there will be more efficient graphics cards for the more demanding games. (also yeah i play on 1080p without any sync)

 

[King_V]

Oh, in that case, yeah. It's really hard to say exactly what the new consoles will do. There are the claims, then there are also the secrets they want to hold close to their vest until the consoles come out.

Trying to predict the performance of the new consoles is going to really be hit or miss. I wouldn't really make any decision based on such guesses.

Likewise with the new video cards that will likely be out say a year or so after the new consoles. GPUs for PCs will also improve, price-to-performance.

An additional benefit of waiting a little bit after the new consoles come out is that you have less of a chance of being bitten by any possible hardware issues - and while I think such issues would be rare, there is of course the infamous Red Ring of Death from the Xbox 360's initial release.

But that aside, after the consoles have been out, played extensively, etc., then you'll have solid data to make a decision with.

 

[Sohom]

Answering this question, i can say it consoles are not so better, why i say it; here it goes:

1. my ps4 had issues with hdmi port not showing any display, its been close to 5 years since my purchase, i call up sony customer care, and they say we dont repair ps4 devices and only replace them; so i ask do i have to pay total retail amount now, they say no we will check and u get an option of a discounted price; thats official customer support(as far as where i am located)... although u can get it serviced locally;
2. pc's with skylake or kabylake with gtx 10 series still going strong;
3. u have a choice upgrade when it comes to pc; but when it comes to consoles, a mid lifecycle upgrade for a higher performance console will cost u double( for ex, pro and x); thats more amount than upgrading the graphics or cpu...

Now, i understand u r not looking for a console; so my suggestion will be to keep the 1650 till the next gen comes out which according to reports maybe late 2020 or early 2021; just upgrade the cpu and mobo. something like the 3600 or 3700 for being future ready;
And when the new consoles launch get the best mid range graphics card...

 

[Bubble_Double]

Thanks for the help

 

[sizzling]

Thanks, but I wasn't really asking about getting a console or an rx 580. I was asking if the rx 580 would still perform well after the new console generation came out, since games tend to get more demanding. Or if it'd be wiser to wait like 1-2 years after the new console generation launch and maybe then there will be more efficient graphics cards for the more demanding games. (also yeah i play on 1080p without any sync)

Games get more demanding on the gpu over time, that last normal. From what I have seen previously there is no correlation between new gen game consoles and pc gpu requirements. Also game developers want to sell to a maximum number of people, you can still game at 1080p 60fps on a GTX780 if you turn down settings.

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

From benchmarks, it looks like the rx 580 is in the slot between a 1650 and 1650 super. So kind of gives you an idea. However, those are both 4gb cards and AMD cards seem to get better with newer drivers. If you get one with 8gb of ram, it may hold for a year or 2 all things depending. The new consoles will be AMD based. So for all we know, the graphics on consoles may be equivalent to an RX 580 or 5500 etc. Obviously not sure on that, just taking a guess.