Question Is the out of box cooling fan come with i7-13700 CPU enough for general daily usage with casual gaming?

[thexmen]

Trying to decide between 13700k and the newer 13700.
Definitely the 13700 has less power consumption when it is not in max/turbo mode and it comes with a cooling fan.
I know there are quite a lot of after market CPU fans there. but not sure if it is worth to pay near $100 extra to get the 13700k+the fan, which the 13700k doesn't include.

Mainly using the computer for daily usage like browsing, watching videos, coding and sometimes play casual games like Dota 2, Warcraft 3 etc. No hardcore 3D FPS game.

I saw quite a few reviews reported that cooling the 13700k is not easy. And I don't plan to use liquid cooling, so will only use fans.

Thanks a lot.

 

[Dj0gany]

Mainly using the computer for daily usage like browsing, watching videos, coding and sometimes play casual games like Dota 2, Warcraft 3 etc. No hardcore 3D FPS game.

Why did you decide on a i7 13th gen when these are the tasks my i7 3770k would eat for breakfast?
I mean im just saying you can get something way cheaper to do the job perfectly.

 

[thexmen]

Why did you decide on a i7 13th gen when these are the tasks my i7 3770k would eat for breakfast?
I mean im just saying you can get something way cheaper to do the job perfectly.

The purpose of this machine is mainly for study and some work related work, so only some casual game for now. But I may play some hardcore game one day, say Christmas/New Year holidays when I have more time to spend in front the screen longer.

Don't have much time these days, but want to get something meet modern applications requirements for next 3 years. Believe or not, I am still using my old desktop which has the i7-3770K.

 

[hotaru.hino]

If it wasn't good enough for daily usage, then I'm sure Intel would've had a class action lawsuit by now.

In any case, the only information I found in the amount of time I'm willing to look into this was this video:

While it's for the i5-13500, it has the same PL1 power limit (which is the long term one) as the i7-13700. The short of it is the i5-13500 got up to the low 70s celsius. Though the PL2 (the "turbo" level) goes up to 212W for the i7. So if you do run the thing full bore on the box cooler, you will see the processor hit the thermal limit.

 

[thexmen]

If it wasn't good enough for daily usage, then I'm sure Intel would've had a class action lawsuit by now.

In any case, the only information I found in the amount of time I'm willing to look into this was this video:

While it's for the i5-13500, it has the same PL1 power limit (which is the long term one) as the i7-13700. The short of it is the i5-13500 got up to the low 70s celsius. Though the PL2 (the "turbo" level) goes up to 212W for the i7. So if you do run the thing full bore on the box cooler, you will see the processor hit the thermal limit.

Thanks, to be safe, any recommended air cooler doesn't break the bank?

I had a look the Cooler Master 212, but some people says it is not enough for the 13700k, not sure how good to the 13700. Or should I go for the Deepcool/Noctua? Or the middle tier Thermaltake Toughair 510 is enough?

 

[geofelt]

Do, at least try the included RM1 cooler.
It is a laminar flow design which seems to be very effective.
You can always change it out if you need to later.
I use one on a 13100 processor and am very pleased with it.
During testing, I ran the cpu-Z stress test and the cooler had no problem.
As a side, I mistakenly connected the cooler to the pump fan header where it ran at 100% all the time.
I could not hear a thing, it is so quiet.

What is the make/model of your case?
Do you plan on a discrete graphics card?
Any cooler, including aio needs a good source of fresh air to let it do it's job.

 

[thexmen]

Do, at least try the included RM1 cooler.
It is a laminar flow design which seems to be very effective.
You can always change it out if you need to later.
I use one on a 13100 processor and am very pleased with it.
During testing, I ran the cpu-Z stress test and the cooler had no problem.
As a side, I mistakenly connected the cooler to the pump fan header where it ran at 100% all the time.
I could not hear a thing, it is so quiet.

What is the make/model of your case?
Do you plan on a discrete graphics card?
Any cooler, including aio needs a good source of fresh air to let it do it's job.

Thinking getting a fractal design meshify 2, yes, will have a RX7800.
No AIO at this stage.

 

[hotaru.hino]

Thanks, to be safe, any recommended air cooler doesn't break the bank?

I had a look the Cooler Master 212, but some people says it is not enough for the 13700k, not sure how good to the 13700. Or should I go for the Deepcool/Noctua? Or the middle tier Thermaltake Toughair 510 is enough?

So I mentioned different power levels (or PL values) before. PL1 is the steady state power consumption and PL2 is the max turbo power consumption. The problem with the i7-13700K is PL1 and PL2 are the same value, 235W. You need a really beefy cooler to handle that indefinitely.

The i7-13700 has a PL1 of 65W and it only stays at PL2 for 28 seconds. So you don't necessarily need a beefy cooler for the i7-13700 because it doesn't stay in the higher power level for that long, and cooling is mostly about average power consumption, not what it's at right now. Assuming the i7-13700 does indeed stay at 65W, then sure, you can get away with something like a Hyper 212 or an Arctic R34. But when the CPU is in its PL2 state, those coolers will likely not be able to handle it so the CPU may exit PL2 earlier.

 

[TerryLaze]

those coolers will likely not be able to handle it so the CPU may exit PL2 earlier.

You make it sound as if it would drop down to PL1 but it will just throttle to whatever the cooler can handle 24/7 which could just be a few watts with next to no difference in performance.

ALso this site has benched the 13700k at different power levels.
253W is just 9% faster than 142W on average in a range of multi threaded apps, so it doesn't make much sense to have it run at max power level all the time anyway.

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